New BULL BAR laws in SA - vehicles after 1-7-13

I think you will find that the major manufacturers have been working within these guidelines for a long time. There are still a few who flaunt it such as Tuff Bars but you would have to think that design is time limited.

What I have not seen are the statistics to back up the whole concept. Of the pedestrians/cyclists who are hit by vehicles, how many are hit by vehicles with bullbars. Where is the statical evidence that the injuries are worse.

To my way of thinking, someone hit by a Cruiser with no bullbar travelling at 60km/hr is not going to feel much better than if they had been hit by a Cruiser with a bullbar travelling at 60 km/hr:cool:

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Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

This ****es me off. I don't drive on the footpath. If pedestrians took those ipods out of their ears so they can hear, and looked for cars instead of texting when crossing the road, we probably would not be having this discussion.

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I am not sure what your on about - bullbars have not been banned - they work just as well as they have always done - just a little safer for pedestrians - I don't see what the issue is.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

I am not sure what your on about - bullbars have not been banned - they work just as well as they have always done - just a little safer for pedestrians - I don't see what the issue is.

Garry

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someone once told me that you want a roo bar to push the roo under the car, not bring it up onto your windscreen.

the new laws seems to favour putting the roo onto your windscreen

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Originally Posted by Eevo

someone once told me that you want a roo bar to push the roo under the car, not bring it up onto your windscreen.

the new laws seems to favour putting the roo onto your windscreen

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Any evidence for that? The CofG of a roo is much lower than a human.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

someone once told me that you want a roo bar to push the roo under the car, not bring it up onto your windscreen.

the new laws seems to favour putting the roo onto your windscreen

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New laws :confused: - these have been around since 2002 in most states and no one seems to be complaining that ARB, OL, TJM etc bars are not up to the task of doing a reasonable job protecting vehicles from roos for the last 10 years.

Garry

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Any evidence for that? The CofG of a roo is much lower than a human.

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Only if he sits still for you. A bit higher if he is on the hop:D.

Storm in a teacup😴
Like above^^^^^^^^
Bars from arb tjm have been meeting those standards for over 10 years
If they didn't make seatbelt laws retrospective can't see them doing it to bb's
Dc

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Originally Posted by debruiser

I agree on the speed limits. If them make them any lower it'll be quicker to just ride your bike; although I'll probably get booked for speeding on that too.

You have to remember that most bike riders (well the good ones in my experience) are car owning rego paying people just like yourself, they just choose to leave the car at home and get some exercise going to work/shops/friends house/picnic. I used to ride to work everyday (and still paid 2 regos), it's a great way to get a little exercise while your commuting and also lets you wind down after a long day. Unfortunately my bike spends far too much time in the shed now because I work in the next town :(

In saying that though I'm normally the first to get ****ed off with bike riders who are doing the wrong thing!! I hate it. Why? Because it makes other drivers angry and dislike all riders, that in turn makes it dangerous for me to ride because everyone thinks I'm going to do something stupid/wrong. They get impatient with me even though I can ride through the city as fast as they can drive it, they also start cutting me off which as you would know is dangerous to me, I've nearly had a few accidents because someone has done this.

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I don't have a problem with push bikes in the burbs around my area , the main problem is in the inner city of Sydney. The riders are on a deathwish, there are dedicated lanes or paths, that are virtually deserted, for them but they insist on riding on the traffic clogged roads?
They then jump the gutter and ride down malls like martin place almost collecting my kids pram, its a big red 2 seater ffs, to then cut back into the traffic on pitt st causing cars to jam on their brakes!

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Any evidence for that? The CofG of a roo is much lower than a human.

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its about the angle of the bar. from all the photos in the link provided, it looks like its trying to push and object up, not down.

im sure most of us have hit more roo's than pedestrians, and when we do hit a roo, do we want to going under the car, or through the windscreen?

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Originally Posted by Eevo

its about the angle of the bar. from all the photos in the link provided, it looks like its trying to push and object up, not down.

im sure most of us have hit more roo's than pedestrians, and when we do hit a roo, do we want to going under the car, or through the windscreen?

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As stated several times above, these standards have been in place for 12 years now. Even the 300tdi ARB bullbar is compliant. Where is the evidence of roos being pushed up onto people's bonnets?