130km/h speed limits

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Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.

Had he said 180 I would have said fair game, in Aus at least, with our current infrastructure.

Will

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I don't believe Australia has ANY roads that would safely support 180km/h. Even the pavement on parts of the Sydney-Newcastle freeway will bounce you onto the median strip at 150. We just don't know what a decent road is here.

As far as car drivers sitting in the right hand lane posing a potential threat to out of control trucks coming down the hill into Woollongong, we need to adopt the German practice of moving left if a vehicle behind flashes their lights to let you know they're coming up faster behind. Australian drivers just get ****ed off and stay in the overtaking lane and often slow down as some sort of stupid payback.

Lets face it, we generally have crap roads with incompetent drivers so any solution is likely to have problems.

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

I should have said highest.

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Just adding clarification. Don't want a interstate fellow AULROian hooting along a country road that does not have a posted limit thinking 110km/h is ok when some are passing them at 130km/h.

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Originally Posted by solmanic

I don't believe Australia has ANY roads that would safely support 180km/h. Even the pavement on parts of the Sydney-Newcastle freeway will bounce you onto the median strip at 150. We just don't know what a decent road is here.

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The Peninsula Link freeway was built to European standards. It's the smoothest road I've ever travelled on. Way smoother than the Philip Island race circuit.

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Originally Posted by solmanic

The idea would be that only suitable divided highways or dead straight outback roads would have a 130km/h limit anyway so there should be no reason to ever need more than 130km/h to overtake.

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On a straight outback road how long would it take to pass someone doing 128kph if you were limited to 130kph?

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Originally Posted by BigJon

On a straight outback road how long would it take to pass someone doing 128kph if you were limited to 130kph?

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assuming a car is 3m long, you pull out three car lengths from the car you are passing and you leave three car lengths when you pull in. That will be 24m at 2km/h or 43.2 seconds.
At a rough guess, you would have travelled 1.5km. After all the farting about more than likely two to three.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

On a straight outback road how long would it take to pass someone doing 128kph if you were limited to 130kph?

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In an ideal world, a person travelling behind someone doing 128km/h should not feel the need to overtake at all. You will gain only 59sec for every hour travelled at that speed.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

The Peninsula Link freeway was built to European standards. It's the smoothest road I've ever travelled on. Way smoother than the Philip Island race circuit.

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Well that maybe one road then that is "built" to European autobahn standards, but it also depends on traffic volume.

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Originally Posted by solmanic

In an ideal world, a person travelling behind someone doing 128km/h should not feel the need to overtake at all. You will gain only 59sec for every hour travelled at that speed.

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I prefer to see the great outdoors unfold in front of me without the "bonus" of following someone else.

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Originally Posted by solmanic

I don't believe Australia has ANY roads that would safely support 180km/h. Even the pavement on parts of the Sydney-Newcastle freeway will bounce you onto the median strip at 150. We just don't know what a decent road is here.

As far as car drivers sitting in the right hand lane posing a potential threat to out of control trucks coming down the hill into Woollongong, we need to adopt the German practice of moving left if a vehicle behind flashes their lights to let you know they're coming up faster behind. Australian drivers just get ****ed off and stay in the overtaking lane and often slow down as some sort of stupid payback.

Lets face it, we generally have crap roads with incompetent drivers so any solution is likely to have problems.

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I've done this on numerous occasions cruising down the Hume, only to be further "blocked", to the point where the other drivers, obviously mates travelling in convoy, have slowed down and then tried to box me in,,, :eek:,, **** them,, V8 Disco with near new suspension, good tyres, lights and an asshole behind the wheel,,, cop this pal. ;) The good thing about the Hume freeway is the amount of room you have after the shoulder in the middle :D Looked like they pretty much all **** themselves, then had the cheek to get on the radio and abuse me,,, hehe,, wanna pull over dickhead ??:twisted:

Education is the only way, and that needs to start with being courteous to others, instead of the "stuff you" attitude that most seem to have. There's no way that the "average" Aussie can safely drive at 130, when half of them cant even get it right at 60.
A lot of people are afraid to go past trucks etc when in town (60-80), let alone out on the open road, so how will they go up near 130?

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

assuming a car is 3m long, you pull out three car lengths from the car you are passing and you leave three car lengths when you pull in. That will be 24m at 2km/h or 43.2 seconds.
At a rough guess, you would have travelled 1.5km. After all the farting about more than likely two to three.

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Mick you need to re-do the maths;)
the smallest landie in length is the 90 at 4 m(evoque is 4.6), most cars are between 4.8-5m+ . So 3 car lengths=15m+ 5m car +15m again=35m at 2kph
that's 63 seconds and over 2.3 km's on the wrong side of the road:eek: now try and find a country road with a straight stretch over 3.5 k's long(you need vision of oncoming traffic so should really be 4.6k's long) with no traffic coming in the opposite direction.