Thread: Civil Liberties

Civil Liberties caused all this kerfuffle.
Btw, let's be clear, only non criminals care about civils liberties or play by the rules.
Eg. One OMCC can specifically target members and family of another. No reference to civil liberties at all.

However, the law and the overwhelming populace are restricted by civil liberties and rules. In effect fighting with one arm tied behind their back. Our laws and constitution prohibit (generally) targetting a specific group.
At the risk of being flamed mercilessly, how long would organisations such as OMCC, Mafia, Crips, Bloods etc last if the non criminal populace was allowed and encouraged to apply the same standard of play to them?

At the risk if enraging Chukka, some of the methods used by administrations and regimes throughout history worked! They may be immoral by our current western standards, but maybe it is time to fight fire with fire? I am sure Chukka could talk at length about the Argentinian phenomenom of 'disappearing'. The mafia perfected 'cement boots'. North Korea and China(?) use 're-education camps'.

I pose the question? How would OMCC membership progress if some of these methods were allowed to be used by the law? My bet is membership would fall.

Many of us here know Chopper Read is now dead. Just as many think he deserved it. But almost as many quietly or tacitly accepted or approved that he took out other crims!

Flame away!

Ralph

might be a bit rough but I think it would get things sorted.

The 2 and 6 rule. good for rapist, kidy fiddlers, organised crime, drug dealers and most other useless loosers.

1 chance is for reform and mend your ways.
second offence, well.... YOU blew YOUR chance, so YOU now go 6ft under. End of problem.

Hard but fair I think.

Originally Posted by newhue

might be a bit rough but I think it would get things sorted.

The 2 and 6 rule. good for rapist, kidy fiddlers, organised crime, drug dealers and most other useless loosers.

1 chance is for reform and mend your ways.
second offence, well.... YOU blew YOUR chance, so YOU now go 6ft under. End of problem.

Hard but fair I think.

The problem is if the people in power or some of them are corrupt or have a twisted ideology, then perhaps you have one chance or why buther to give you a chance
It can happen, it happens before

This may help. It's a free World, but if you don't vote, don't complain about the system you live under. Bob

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Originally Posted by Davehoos

if you don't have property in your name---pay rates, its unlikely they will chase you for non voting.

know of heeps of people that arnt on the roll, some that don't even claim welfare..

Want to have a wager on that, I don't have property but found out three years after the election and 7 days before the cancellation, I had an interesting conversation with "SPER", seems that although the Dept. of Transport, banks, phone, electricity etc etc all had my updated address the AEC still had me at the old address and as such that was were the correspondence went..... she also informed me that after three non replies it is the automatic cancellation of the drivers licence for anything that has been put through "SPER".....I was talking about this at work and you would be surprised how many people are driving around without a licence and don't even know it

What happen now if a person do not have a fix address?
You can not vote if you are nor registered in a proper address.
A homeless person cannot be forced to give an address.
How they can force to vote?
Just a thought

I came to live in OZ. some 25 plus years ago , We had only lived in our house for a month or so , when there was a council election , we did not know any of the candidates , or any thing about any of the party's , let alone that It was compulsory to vote . Anyway we didn't vote ,thinking nothing of It until my wife and I received a fine each . She did appeal and the fine was wavered ..

Local Government elections in South Australia have voluntary voting. I think it is more the exception than the rule Australia wide.