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    Quote Originally Posted by manic View Post
    hmmm mine is not a standard classic -> http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-ri...-ute-lr90.html

    It did pass roadworthy/inspection, and apart from the paint and a few aftermarket bolt on bits it is all land rover.

    Club plates on the Zute Ute... hmm still undecided.

    I'd be interested to hear of your experience driving the roads on red plates - especially in not so classic looking 4x4's. Harassed much?
    I'd put that straight on a club permit. I've never been harassed, then again I am rather, um, "blunt" with assholes. I have a 1985 car with plastic bumpers that looks sort of modern on the club permit scheme and have never been queried about it.

    The truth is the majority of the population would have no idea what red plates means.

    seeya,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    There supposed to be standard cars.... The scheme however is brilliant. I have four cars on it. (victoria). The NSW scheme is like the previous victorian scheme which was ****ful and useless as tits on a bull. We had a couple of cars on it for a few years and they might have gotten driven once in that time. The NSW scheme is great for people that want to polish there car .... look at it sitting in the shed ... polish it some more, but never really drive it (unless they want to go the club advertised evens ... which can be bloody difficult with a young family... and there usually a 5hour round to the near capital city too).

    The "original" bit is getting really hard to define I think. Eg; I know of a 1940 Ford V8. Now it's been lowered and has a different V8 in it. It was "enhanced" like this in the 1960s. Even the modification are 50+ years old. It's got a 60's V8 in it rather than the not very reliable flat head. So can it go on a club permit What about an old French car with metric tyres that are no longer available and is now wearing non original size wheels. Are they no longer "original".

    I guess so long as it doesn't attact attention as being "definitely not original" ...eg: 35" wheels, 350 Chev (rather than 3.5 V8) your local club would let the Land Rover in.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    I think you have to look at the individual clubs requirements. There are many "hot rod" clubs with highly modified vehicles on club plates, there are modern Left hand drive vehicles on club plates. I looked into a 4wd club that had club plate scheme and their main criteria was the vehicle had to be painted in army colors - and exterior resemble the original army vehicle (they told me they had a army defender with a 350 chev conversion and 35" tyres on club plates). So it really depends on the individual club.
    The main thing is to carry your log book at all times and make sure it is filled out correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manic View Post
    hmmm mine is not a standard classic -> Zute Ute LR90

    It did pass roadworthy/inspection, and apart from the paint and a few aftermarket bolt on bits it is all land rover.

    Club plates on the Zute Ute... hmm still undecided.

    I'd be interested to hear of your experience driving the roads on red plates - especially in not so classic looking 4x4's. Harassed much?
    Manic, don't get confused.
    The diferens states have different schemes with similar but diferent conditions.
    For you, being in Victoria, look at the Vicroads scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post

    Are you sure about that? I thought ours was pretty good...
    I'm with Gav on this one.
    Historic, left-hand drive and street rod vehicles - Government of South Australia

    Club permits : VicRoads

    Sorry digger but, it's the standard bit that makes the SA system unworkable for us. They assume, if it's modified, it must be a street rod.
    How many street rods have you seen on that Horseshoe Rim Track?
    I've not seen many in Wombat.

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    In Queensland a vehicle has to be over 30 years of age before it can go on Historic registration,the owner has to be a financial member of a regognised car club (Transport Dept.) and to use it he/she has to be participating in a club run or going to another club's advertised run, noted by the club's vehicle registrar and with a trip number.

    BUT, Queensland Transport Dept. is looking into implementing the Victorian scheme,but with only 45 days of use as this was read out and discussed at our last club meeting (Military Jeep Club of Qld.) as this discussion paper is going to all registered vehicle clubs. But I doubt that our rego fees will go down,from the $220 odd dollars that I currently pay for my series 2A.




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    Hot rod clubs are different.

    They are classified as "Street Rods", each vehicle must be viewed by a licensed street rod engineer before they can be granted what used to be "SR" street rod plates. They now wear club permit plates, but still need an engineer to view the car. Oh man .... sweet, they have updated the vicroads website with Street Rod rules. If it doesn't meet these requirements ...

    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...orvehicles.pdf

    it needs an engineer to view it. It appears any car club can issue a street rod permit these days if they follow these guidelines. My cousin has a tidy 60's valiant that had the roof chopped off back in the 80's. I'll read these guidelines and see if it can be registered as a street rod without an engineers inspection through a local car club.

    seeya,
    Shane L.

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    The club registration schemes are ideal for what they are set up for.
    As long as you comply with what is set out within the guidelines then there should be no problem at all.
    Remember though that it is not so much what the "majority of the public" see or recognise as Club rego numbers, more what the plate recognition system that is fitted, (or will soon be fitted) to nearly every police car sees and instantly registers. That is a different thing.
    Operation outside the guidelines is treated basically the same as driving an unregistered vehicle, and can also adversely and indirectly affect other members of the club involved on the same system.
    As long as all goes well, well and good, but don't cry poor should you happen to be operating outside the guidelines when something goes pear-shape and no insurer nor anyone else will co-operate with or touch you.
    The Victorian system has a couple of definite advantages over the current system we have in operation in Qld, in that we (Qld) can only run on designated club orientated trips (not only our own clubs, but as guests of any affiliated club) or on "test runs" in preparation for a designated run (15km limit and must be provable, not just hearsay, when questioned), but can not go to the shops or pick up the missus from work whilst on this "test run".
    Currently there is a move afoot to change the Qld system and 5 different options have been put forward. The jury is still out on this one. There is also talk amongst the National historic motoring council groups of the system being "nationalised" and if this is the case we will all have to wait and see what (if anything) is accepted as the model for all Australia.
    In answer to the original question, I would suggest you read the guidelines carefully, absorb what they actually say, and if that system is suitable for your needs, then go ahead and give it a go. You can always change back if it doesn't pan out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manic View Post
    The only other issue that may be a pain is the interstate one. I would like to be able to go to every state in the country without too much hassle
    Here in Vic., we have a poorly known and understood road law. Well, actually it's a road safety regulation.

    Exemption for vehicles temporarily in Victoria
    131. Exemption for vehicles temporarily in Victoria

    A vehicle is exempt from the requirement to be registered if-

    (a) the vehicle is in Victoria temporarily; and

    (b) the vehicle is-

    (i) registered in another State, a Territory or a foreign country; or

    (ii) permitted to be used in accordance with a law in force in another
    State or a Territory relating to the use of unregistered vehicles
    (including a law relating to trade plates); and

    (c) the vehicle is carrying, conspicuously displayed in the required way
    and condition, all number plates and labels that it is at that time
    required to carry-

    (i) for a vehicle registered outside Victoria, in the State, Territory or
    country in which it is registered under the law of that State,
    Territory or country; or

    (ii) for an unregistered vehicle permitted to be used in another State or a
    Territory, in that State or Territory under the law of that State or
    Territory; and

    (d) for an unregistered vehicle permitted to be used in another State or a
    Territory, the vehicle is being used in accordance with any conditions
    of any permit or other authority that apply in that State or
    Territory, to the extent they are capable of being applied to the use
    of the vehicle outside that State or Territory.


    I wonder if other states have a similar rule.
    If anyone knows, could you please post up a link to the relevant state legislation.

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