cheers mate apreciate the input but that 1st post quoted wasnt my one... though I did say the non emotive part in the original post, as didnt want a mines better than yours posting war:):). I would not have a go at you for helping me with info, or so id like to think anyways... so sorry if it came accross like that phibbzy.
I think i should have worded my post better in hindsight.... value for money as if there isnt massive downfalls of the Disco for my situation I cannot justify 100% more (10k extra for Td5 or about same for a trashed Tdi defender with 400000km on it) for what amounts to a romantic preference. Though I definatly hear you on the go after what you want aproach which i aggree with. I just find it hard to justify to myself (and my wife) too pay double because i prefer the basic nature and "look" of the defender. Which amounts (for us) to another aprox 1-2 yrs of saving. I would love a Unimog too but....
not at the opertunity cost of missing x amount of years of fun 4x4 weekends. I was going to get a 3.1 jackaroo because of reliable iZu drive line and cheap but thought the disco might be happy medium.
Thanks for the help so far:thumbsup::thumbsup:

