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The unfortunate "ham" flavour that may have appeared in some of my meats was due to an unfortunate contamination of some of the utensils that my associates use in their production.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheerluck
Most regrettable.
The dogs fault? No.
But then again guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Doesn't stop us from destroying the guns though.
I'll have some of the boys pay him a visit, perhaps make him an offer he can't refuse.
Sent using my best Jersey accent.
Don Muppet.
That was exactly how she described it. The way they were leaping for her face and throat, taking it in turns to try and pull her over. Terror doesn't even cover half of it. The thought that "if I go down, it's all over" was what worried her most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue
The owner has yet to talk to us. He had several weeks to do so, until his wife kicked him out. But yes, his view is that he and his dogs have done nothing wrong, and couldn't really care about my wife's injuries. The only time he will be talking to us now is across a courtroom. We have been talking to his wife a great deal, and remain on good terms with her. She cried her eyes out when she saw what 'her husband's dogs' had done, and couldn't do enough to help. However she has been dumped on from a great height by her soon to be ex-husband.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue
And his view was that he could do what the hell he liked with his dog, and the council could get stuffed.
There is little danger of either shame, or waking up to himself. The guy is an arrogant ***** of the highest order, and he gave the dog to one of his family members. Thankfully one who has no young children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue
Your above comments about the owner of the dogs reinforce my opinion that we do not need people like him in our society.
A one way ticket to Somalia wrapping him with an American flag will do the trick.........
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Originally Posted by Chucaro
Part of the issue with him is that he appeared on a recent television series, which seemed to have altered his perception of 'reality' somewhat. He was bearable before, not so much now. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chucaro
The alternative treatment would be as featured on the Vietnam special of Top Gear recently - a motorbike painted with the Stars and Stripes that blared "Born in the USA" as you rode it. :twisted:
IMO the dogs should have been seized off the property the minute the council was notified. They do have the power to do this when a dog attacks. Then the dogs are in custody during the investigation process. During this time a destruction order can be sought,the dogs may never see their home again.
This is one of the situations where a council officer is allowed to attend no matter what time of day or night and they will get paid.
I truly an sorry for your wife in this situation, but were any of the previous attacks on the chickens, or when they knocked you reported?
Dogs attacking other animals does not mean they will attack a human, but when they start to challenge humans, alarm bells start to ring and something needs to be done by council ASAP.
That is very interesting, as I was told the opposite by both the council officer who attended that night, and the investigating officers later.Quote:
Originally Posted by RisingSun
The attending officer told me that they had no power to go on to the property and seize the dogs, and could only take the dogs if they were voluntarily released. Anything else would require a court order.
As it happened, both dogs were voluntarily released that night, though the owner had a change of mind the following week and appealed, and got the male dog back. (He gave up the female for destruction, saying she was the instigator)
No, none of the prior attacks were reported. Something I (as does my good neighbour) regret bitterly now. It was always "we'll let it go this once". As I said in my first post, the signs were there when we look back on it, but not wanting to spoil a relationship with our neighbours seemed more appropriate at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RisingSun
those dogs were not raised right at all!! and like rising sun says, as soon as they are challenging humans then something needs to be done. i am sorry your wife had to suffer like that. i hope that the ordeal does not taint the breed for her.they are not like that at all, there was something wrong with those ones with their upbringing. the owner sounds like hes not very nice, and not nice people make not nice dogs, no matter the breed. ive got 2 large dogs, one being a rottyx ridgeback, and he is an amazing dog. has protected me from a dog that tried to attack me, and an abusive person once too. i send speedy recovery vibes to your wife, and to you for the horrors you saw in seeing your wife in that state.
and eavo no dog breeds need to be band. more the owners need to be taught a thing or two! i hate how everyone jumps on the bandwagon to ban 'aggressive dogs' all aggressive dogs have been failed by humans. a small dog can cause just as much damage as a big dog! they all have sharp teeth!! a border collie took the life of my hand raised from just born, much loved sheep. (she was my child essentially just a wooly version haha im a chick by the way folks incase that seemed weird as most would assume im a dude!)
i do hope this fella and the remaining dog are dealt with soon. the dog needs to be pts. and he needs to be fined and banned from owning dogs ever again, he obviously cannot care for animals adequately, any breed he raised would turn out the same, he fails them and tragic unfair things like this happen :( this running off with his dog is probably the most time its ever spent with him!! its the same as children! half the bad adults in the world have been failed by their parents, animals are no different!
again though sending all the healing vibes i can your way!!!
So sorry to hear about this, and I hope you wife recovers quickly. Don't forget about the kids, and keep talking to them. Seeing their mother like that must have been horrific for them.
I hate hearing stories about ANY dog attack. The sad fact of the matter is, that in a great number of cases, the wrong end of the lead is being blamed.
Banning select breeds does not work, however, banning cross-breeding does. It became a fashion statement, and then dogs (and cats, for that matter) were crossed just to see what they could get.
Some cross breeds are great, but they have to be the right ones. I am thinking of the Labradoodle in particular. A very intelligent dog, with hair instead of fur, for blind people that have allergies.
We have had large breed dogs for many many years, including Rotties. The BREED is not any more aggressive than any other, given the love, affection, training & socialisation that is necessary for any dog. As Sheerluck said, these particular dogs were treated in nearly the worst way possible, especially for this breed.
Rotties are happiest when they are with their people. If I am in the shed, mine will wander in & out, just to make sure he knows where I am. Even with the machines running, I can tell if someone has pulled up in the driveway, and if they are known to him or not, simply by what he does. They are a very intelligent breed, and need to be kept stimulated & exercised. These particular dogs had neither. I would also guess, and it is exactly that, that they were not been fed properly either.
The owner, by his actions, has proven that PEOPLE are the biggest problem. These 2 dogs have, and will, pay the ultimate price for their owners actions. And as sad as it is, the dogs are probably better off. I would almost guarantee that these 2 dogs were not bought from a registered breeder. A responsible breeder will not allow agressive dogs to breed.
Prison is no deterrent for people like this, as they probably feel quite at home there. Take them to the zoo, and let the lions play with them for a while instead.
As I said before, I sincerely hope your wife recovers soon from her physical injuries, and the entire family can overcome the emotional scars.
Council officers usually derive their power of entry to a property via the local laws, which only allows access to the front door, and when asked to leave the have to go. In a dog attack they operate under Animal Management (Cats and Dogs) act 2008, which gives powers of seizure without the permission of the property owner.
Playing devils advocate and really not trying to offend but the issue of your wife entering the property without permission and the attack occurring on the animal owners property may come into play, just not sure how much.
I used to live in Flagstone, and still have friends in Jimboomba. Are they still under Beaudesert Shire out there?
If I can be of any assistance with anything send me a PM, I can get you specific sections for powers of entry for authorized officers even just so you can read up.