Tractor on Club Rego ? Requirements ?

While we're on the subject of tractors, cars, rego's and distorting the rules. About 20 years ago there was a bloke doing the rounds of the car show circuit with a fairly wild old Falcon. Blown, injected, massive rubber, full chassis and cage, the whole bit. Who was writing the pink slips for this thing was a mystery to a lot of people until a car magazine hit the stands reporting that he had to get a permit to bring it into town for the photo shoot. Turned out that the bloke had a property and the Falcon was a "farm implement" :D.

I believe that something similar exists in Germany, someone here will undoubtedly know. It seems that they can have several vehicles from the same address with plates all carrying the same number.

We have the technology today, it could be a cheap transponder linked to an eTag with receivers connected to the phone systems. If the transponder is moving and there is no money in your tag account it debits the daily fee. If you have it on a truck or trailer you log onto your account and register a non-taxible movement. If a car passes a traffic camera without a transponder or no money in the account a photo is taken and you recieve the $1,200 unregistered and uninsured fine in the mail.

Interesting to hear all the different viewpoints on the Club Permit system.
Sounds like my mate shouldn't have worried because tractor rego is relatively cheap, the interesting thing will be whether he has to add lights horn etc.

The Victorian system seems much more flexible now, under the old system you could only drive the vehicle to Club events and to a place of repair.
Also under the old system I believe the historic rego wasn't on the VicRoads computer whereas under the new system it is on the computer.

All the 'rules' made up by individual Clubs are a PITA. Must be a member for 2 years before you can apply, must attend a certain number of meetings, must be 'standard' and not modified. The most recent I heard was a club where a non-standard paint colour means you couldn't get onto the Club Permit system. The problem I guess is as the clubs get bigger they cannot 'control' their members so they start creating 'rules'.
The Clubs have the option of having a 'scruitneer' sign the vehicle off instead of carrying out a roadworthy. Most are moving towards insisting on a Roadworthy because of potential liability issues.

The easiest thing to do is form your own Club (like SLoW), keep the membership small and ensure only people you can trust are allowed to join. The application paperwork can be sourced from VicRoads ;)

Have a read of this :-
CarClub2

I'm sure a few people will throw a tanty about their comments but this is the current Club Permit system in VIC and I think that they have worked the system to their advantage. Good on them and I just love the vehicles they are running.


Colin

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Originally Posted by Stuck

While we're on the subject of tractors, cars, rego's and distorting the rules. About 20 years ago there was a bloke doing the rounds of the car show circuit with a fairly wild old Falcon. Blown, injected, massive rubber, full chassis and cage, the whole bit. Who was writing the pink slips for this thing was a mystery to a lot of people until a car magazine hit the stands reporting that he had to get a permit to bring it into town for the photo shoot. Turned out that the bloke had a property and the Falcon was a "farm implement" :D.

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In NSW this is covered under the conditional Registration for "Street Rods"
Conditional Registration Guide (vehicle sheet) Street rod
vehicle requirements:A street rod is a vehicle that has been modified for safe road use and that:
• has a body and frame that were built before 1949, or,
• is a replica of a vehicle the body and frame of which were built before 1949
Mandatory conditions:
• Use only in conjunction with authorised club event or maintenance.

There is currently an FV439 in NSW. When he presented the paperwork to RMS they wouldn't accept tracked vehicles on HCRS. Unfortunately for the RMS the import paperwork had been incorrectly produced by the DOT as Alvis FV439 CV (Tractor) instead of: FV439 CV(Tracked), so its registered as a tractor on C plates.

I have a few vehicles on historic Rego in NSW.
I can only drive one at a time.
The cost is I think 85 dollars a vehicle.( no matter what size it is)
Three different clubs can be written down on the yearly renewal.
A club inspector checks my vehicles once a year to ensure they are road worthy.
Between Three different clubs usually there is a run going on some where.
My main club has no problem with me going for a drive some where so long as it is recorded with the club registra.......ie estimated times and locations.
I think it is a great system with just enough freedom and control at the same time.
I did a run to a local 4WD club PR at a ARB shop just locally in my old Studebaker 6x6.
I had not used the old girl for a while and found it needed a new battery and the fuel in the tank had gone stale.
Rung up the club registra and organised a 50 km drive to burn through a bit of fresh fuel.
No Problems.
Wondering if I should drive it to the club X mas do from Nowra to Sydney and return..........plently of reasons and places to drive if you really want to under the NSW system.

Before 1955 there was no historic rego.
A major historic motor bike club was wearing a track to the roads authority getting permits to move for every club run.
It became too hard so a Historic rego system was tried.
Thanks to good management of past clubs we still have a historic system which is cheap and fair.
I want to keep it that way.
Historic rego insurance will not cover personal injury from a tractor doing something it should not be doing with the rego supplied.

The street rod clubs work very hard with the rego and state govts to get a working solution to their engineering and driving club needs so everyone is happy .

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Originally Posted by 101 Ron

The street rod clubs work very hard with the rego and state govts to get a working solution to their engineering and driving club needs so everyone is happy .

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The victorian street rod scheme is now absolutely brilliant too.... There used to be just one inspector (hows that for giving someone the power over all :eek: ) for the whole of victoria. It doesn't take much imagination to see how this worked out... give one single person a bit of power .....

Now it's bloody fantastic, get an engineer in the approved list at VicRoads (there is several in ballarat alone) to eyeball the car and say it's "safe" for road use (not roadworthy, that's a technical black and white term) and you can put it on a club permit through any club .... and actually drive and enjoy the car ... How good is that .... :banana::banana::banana:

The victorian scheme is so good, there is no need for anyone anywhere to "rort" it as you can actually use and drive the car legally if you want.... No "grey" areas. It's almost worth a car lover shifting to Victoria to access... We owe Vicroads and the classic car movement in Victoria a huge thanks for getting this implemented. It really has transformed the classic car movement :TakeABow::TakeABow:

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

The victorian street rod scheme is now absolutely brilliant too.... There used to be just one inspector (hows that for giving someone the power over all :eek: ) for the whole of victoria. It doesn't take much imagination to see how this worked out... give one single person a bit of power .....

Now it's bloody fantastic, get an engineer in the approved list at VicRoads (there is several in ballarat alone) to eyeball the car and say it's "safe" for road use (not roadworthy, that's a technical black and white term) and you can put it on a club permit through any club .... and actually drive and enjoy the car ... How good is that .... :banana::banana::banana:

The victorian scheme is so good, there is no need for anyone anywhere to "rort" it as you can actually use and drive the car legally if you want.... No "grey" areas. It's almost worth a car lover shifting to Victoria to access... We owe Vicroads and the classic car movement in Victoria a huge thanks for getting this implemented. It really has transformed the classic car movement :TakeABow::TakeABow:

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I won't move to Victoria... it's full of Victorians :p

... although there is some good 4WDing down there.. and lots of Land Rovers... and snow (although we have it too)... and I could drive my RRC on H plates... BUT I don't want to be done for 1km/h over... oh and it's full of Victorians :p

I'll stay where I am, making my own car club sounds good though :D

$85 For Historic in Vic :eek: try $184.40 renewal for a 4 cylinder Series 2/2a,with the restrictions that go with it, Must belong to a recognised car club, Must have run/trip number from the club vehicle registration officer,or road testing within a radius of 15 KLM or to travel to specialist repair mechanic, proof of booking to be supplied to inquiring Police/Transport officer. full rego Qld on 4 cylinder $706.40 6cyl $800? V8 $1K plus :twisted:


Qld Tpt is now investigating Vic scheme,but Combined Council of Historic Motoring Clubs are cool on the whole thing, as we were informed at the Jeep Club Meeting last night 12/11/13.