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    Quote Originally Posted by alien View Post
    I agree that this is not a case for club rego.

    Just curious.
    What's the difference between using 4 old cars as daily drivers or 1 as a full time touring vehicle?
    Seems to me they are letting both happen by default.

    My feeling is club/historic rego is for "hobby" vehicles.
    I shake my head at times after seeing some cars on these plates.
    A rough bodied Mazda 323 was the latest I've seen.
    They're rorting the system and getting dirt cheap rego, much much cheaper to have 4 historic rego's than 1 normal registration.

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    Not sure about other states, but here in SA registering a tractor is not exactly an expensive job... I use mine on the side of the road to mow the verge/medium strip.. (Something which even tho its council property, you as the adjoining land owner are obliged to do)... As I use it on the road, it has a beacon, working lights, horn and a large warning triangle. Its only a small tractor, but IMHO its worth registering properly. There is a local tractor club down the road with many Fergies etc, and ALL of them have the full compliment of lighting. I have a large rare Case Inter 1455xl sat on a mates place in the UK, and if ever I have the funds to get it out here that will also be fully registered with lights a plenty. Be seen I say! Over here, most Ag dealers can fill out the paperwork and register a tractor but we will want to see it and know that all the lights work!!
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    Thanks for all the replies.

    This chap is just trying to make sure he is doing the right thing.
    If agricultural rego exists then I'll get him to check that out.

    The nature strip is along the front of his property but outside his fence so Council property. He was thinking Club permit just to keep the costs down if he does have to have it registered to leave his property to cut the nature strip. It will not be used on the road.
    I'm not sure putting up a couple of warning signs will satisfy an over zealous officer of the law if the rego requirement is correct.

    He belongs to an old machinery club that caters for vehicles including tractors so we'll check it out via them.


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    Hi,

    In Vic it's only about $100 to register a tractor like that. No inspection needed . Have a look at the Vicroads website and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

    cheers, DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Hi,

    In Vic it's only about $100 to register a tractor like that. No inspection needed . Have a look at the Vicroads website and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

    cheers, DL

    Thanks, I've been browsing their website but haven't found that info yet so I'll keep looking.
    For that price he'd just do it to make certain he was covered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alien View Post
    I agree that this is not a case for club rego.

    Just curious.
    What's the difference between using 4 old cars as daily drivers or 1 as a full time touring vehicle?
    Seems to me they are letting both happen by default.

    My feeling is club/historic rego is for "hobby" vehicles.
    I shake my head at times after seeing some cars on these plates.
    A rough bodied Mazda 323 was the latest I've seen.
    The difference is the 4 old bangers don't have to be used in relation to any historic motoring or community activity, they can be used by anyone who has no interest in the vehicles or keeping the heritage alive. They are just old vehicles that can be registered cheaply.

    The difference between that and the extended Club activity such as celebrating some journey like the Redex trial in a Historic Registered vehicle is that it has something to do with motoring heritage and the reason for club rego in the first place. With the 90 day rule these long reinactments are restricted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    The issue still is that regular tractor implement conditional rego should be used for tractors and club rego should be used for club activities.

    I strongly disagree with the 90 day scheme, for about $200 someone could go and get 4 old bangers and drive to work every day of the year on cheap rego. It is not the reason club rego was originated and it is these sorts of people who will spoil it for the rest of us.

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    What a lot of crap.... You really think *anyone* will save money driving 4 cars ... sigh ... 4 x 90day club permits == the same cost as registering a single car for a year. Then you have 4cars you need to initially get road worthy certificates/safety certificates, 4 x cars to maintain, 4 x insurance .............

    To even dream this would be cheaper than buying one good car is absolutely laughable. In what world that we live in do you think you'll find a car capable of being roadworthied for $200 ??

    I have four cars on club permits... Lets see my savings.

    4 x comprehensive insurance
    4 x club permits (45 days will suffice for each no doubt, not 90)
    4 x maitenance... even if there not used, tires deteriate, rubber deteriates, 25+year old cars rust ... There engine gasket get old and weepy, they don't like sitting un-used.

    Please tell me how me running a

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    1985 Range Rover 5spd.

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    it looks old and ****ty (infact any features the original factory paint on several of it's panels) .... Saving me a god damn fortune driving such a pile of crap it is

    Now explain to me in any sensible terms how I'm saving money over buying a tidy 10year old Camry and just servicing it annually until I throw it away.

    With the tractor, I'd be telling them to go shove there heads up there arse.... I don't register my ride on mower to cut the very long nature strip here (I'm acreage), and I'd be buggered if I'd register a tractor to do the same thing.

    I've nothign against a battered old Mazda 323 on club rego. Just because it's not someone elses taste in cars means nothing to me. how do you know it's not an old car that's been in the family for 30years since new (for example a deceased grandmothers car) they can't bring themselves to get rid of.

    I've seen really tidy Toyota crowns and 120y's on club permits too.... Bloody rippa, good on them. The things would be chucked to scrap metal if someone didn't have interest in them. I see old commonbores on club rego these days too..... They interest me about as much as a dog turd on the footpath..... My generation grew up in them, so why shouldn't they have fond memories of them and want one to tidy up

    It really has got me buggered why everyone seems think "someone somewhere is rorting the system ... so we should change it" ... WTF ??? It's bloody brilliant.... This old 323... let me guess, it was a friend of a friend of a friend that "saw it and reckoned they were abusing the scheme"

    seeya,
    Shane L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    The difference is the 4 old bangers don't have to be used in relation to any historic motoring or community activity, they can be used by anyone who has no interest in the vehicles or keeping the heritage alive. They are just old vehicles that can be registered cheaply.

    The difference between that and the extended Club activity such as celebrating some journey like the Redex trial in a Historic Registered vehicle is that it has something to do with motoring heritage and the reason for club rego in the first place. With the 90 day rule these long reinactments are restricted.
    Why are people repeating this crap .... 90days club permits are exactly 1/4 of the cost of 365 normal registration .......... Guess how much registering 4 car on club permits will cost If you look your computer under "accesories" you'll find a calculator if your struggling with the maths. Now add in 4 lots of insurance and 4 lots of maintenance.

    You really think *anyone* can run a 30+year old car without being an enthusiast that spends either a bucket load of money on upkeep .... or 1/2 there life tinkering with cars in the shed

    There is no savings to be had .... there is a horendous amount of time and money to be spent in upkeep.... I doubt you'll find anyone anywhere that's driving one for "cheap rego" .... it simply can't happen.

    seeya,
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    Hi Shane

    In NSW you would only have 2 cars on Historic rego the CX2500 and the Range Rover are not old enough so would be on full rego at a couple of grand and the same again for your insurance. Basically any car on full rego with insurance is going to cost people at least a grand. In NSW Historic Rego and NRMA Classic Comprehensive combined is less than $150, 4 of them would be $600.

    I personally have 2 cars on full rego, 2 braked trailers on full rego, 2 vehicles and a trailer on Historic. Most years the combined use of the vehicles on HCRS would be less than 90 days, but I like the option of using them if my club decided to run an extended trip.

    The point of club rego is not to save money, it is to be able to occasionally use the vehicle of your hobby out on the road without having to spend thousands on rego and insurance.

    The people I'm concerned about are to ones who and go out and buy a clapped out old banger for a couple of hundred, probably not insure it but use the 90 day Club rego to drive it without any supervision until it dies and they buy another old banger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    The people I'm concerned about are to ones who and go out and buy a clapped out old banger for a couple of hundred, probably not insure it but use the 90 day Club rego to drive it without any supervision until it dies and they buy another old banger.
    That's not a concern .......... You see you have to find a club that will accept the car... Now if I go and by for example a 1985 Magna for $200 bucks ........... And it is by some miracle roadworthy.... What car club ... anywhere do you think will allow the car to go onto a permit through there club.................................... It's simply not going to happen, not ever

    BTW: My father and I both had cars on the old Victorian scheme that was like NSW .... It sucked so bad we both wasted money for several years paying the pointless fee before giving up on it. You see most club runs are miles away in a car you can't legally drive ... except for "maintenance" ... I gave it away when I had my father ring me and say someone at his work had seem my club permit car out and about 2days in a row ... "He's obvisiously using it to drive to work" ............... Sadly they didn't complain to me in person ( I can be rather tactless and blunt to assholes) ..... He was right he did see it out at the same time two days in a row ... The first day was to the exhaust shop, the 2nd day was upto pirtek to sort out some hydraulic bits. I never did bother to ever drive any car from that day forward on the club permit scheme. The anal assholes could keep there scheme all to themselves. They all just wanted to feel they had power over your use of your car... and were scared ****less "somoene, somewhere" was abusing there scheme

    The 90day permit scheme is unbelievable. and yes I do drive permit cars to work often (something someone was whinging about above). Why shouldn't I ?? It's a gentle trip along country roads that is perfect for keeping vintage cars in nice running order.

    seeya,
    Shane L.

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