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Thread: Do up my Rangie classic or get a D2 TD5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony66_au View Post
    heres the question though, does the 300TDi mount straight into the RRC as a bolt in solution or do you need to weld in mounts?

    Id happily do a 3.5 v8 to TDi conversion
    A lot of the U.K RRc owners have done this so maybe have a look on their forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony66_au View Post
    heres the question though, does the 300TDi mount straight into the RRC as a bolt in solution or do you need to weld in mounts?

    Id happily do a 3.5 v8 to TDi conversion
    Mounts need to be welded in. The Tdi mount is quite a simple design so it's easily copied but (in NSW at least) it will require engineering approval.
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    And so the costs start to add up. You have to factor in such things as exhaust , fuel tank etc etc, and most 300Tdis will have maybe 200-300KK on them. If buying a written off car I recall a fellow club member rolled his 300Tdi on the Oodnadatta track. Dragged it upright tried to start it, whoops bent conrod which he then shut up about. So there is a risk.


    Just to compare a standard TD5 auto has a range of at least 800KM not towing.

    If you are concerned about range as I am it is the way to go.

    My range with 2 jerrys on my camper trailer is around 1100Km or maybe more if I am game.

    I tell you it is great and the 40% difference in fuel cost is also great.

    Regards Philip A

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    Last week I had the honour of driving a mildly chipped D2/td5 over some very interesting (ok, scared the life out of me...) terrain. I really don't think my 95 Classic 3.9 would have handled it with as little fuss. If you could get a 300 to perform as well, I'd say go that route and trash the all-aluminium boat anchor.
    (I'm un-impressed with my gutless, thirsty and potentially unreliable & delicate 3.9 V8....)

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    Personally I have had good life from 3.5's but they are aging badly with far higher mileages than when I first played with them so they are beginning to be a less desirable and thirstier option.

    The TD5 I have been learning about while doing groundwork for a Disco purchase and I am familiar with the Siemens injection system which although great as a factory fit I suspect will present issues if used in a swap.
    The 300TDi although less refined regarding balance and electric jiggerypokery seems to be the sensible choice if you were going to do a conversion and I suspect that setting up the intercooler properly to cope with a bar or so more boost and some pump tweaking and I reckon youd make up the power ok too
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    Something that is on my to-do list is to drop the centre muffler off the D1,and to in-large the intercooler it has already been breathed on by MR at Redcliffe in Brisbane and 110 comes up a little under and for an auto I can live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Not really practical, the only place you'll get a useful extra capacity of LPG is flat on the floor inside with a manifold tank, adds around 60 litres. Doing up the LPG system with oxygen sensor control can add 20% to your LPG range too. I do this to nearly every LR V8 I convert, it's worth doing.
    Hmmm, that sounds interesting. This would obviously only help with injected gas setups? Tell me more ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterM View Post
    Hmmm, that sounds interesting. This would obviously only help with injected gas setups? Tell me more ...
    Nothing to do with injected gas. Standalone LPG processors are fitted to the vast percentage of passenger cars made between around 1988 and 2004 and converted to mixer type LPG systems. For some peculiar reason, many commercials and 4WDs sold in Australia between these years weren't seen as polluting so didn't require O2 sensors and catalytic converters, whereas passengers cars did. All passenger cars fitted with O2 sensors (and cats) are supposed to have LPG processors fitted with their conversions.

    All you need to do with a LR V8 is retrofit a suitable oxygen sensor, purchase a new or second hand LPG processor suitable for your LPG system, and put it on. Any gas fitter should be able to do this. You can even fit a microswitch to the throttle travel to disable the processor (giving it a false lean signal by shorting the O2 input) at full throttle, giving maximum power when you need it. You only want to increase economy at part throttle, not limit your power at full noise.

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    Very interesting, I had no idea.

    Thanks for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Huh? They share the windscreen , doors, AFAIK floor .
    AFAIK the D2 has identical interior in at least the front seat area to a RRC.
    I have noticed that even the seat belt mount positions are to my eye identical. AFAIK they share the dashboard on soft dash RRC vs D1 and D2.
    You can even put RRC front guards on a D1.
    Regards Philip A
    RRC and early D1 share a lot of parts,inc. windscreen which won't fit later D1.D2 shares nothing AFAIK with RRC.My old 87 hiline is nicer to drive than my 00 d2 td5 on 18s.If you by a disco you will at least be able to read instruments at night,unless the 91 has better ilumination than my 87

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