Thread: Do you love dogs?

If you think you can take on the gambling industry, then knock yourself out. Do I think the killing of these dogs is right? - no. Do you think I can do anything about it - no.

And before you get all high and mighty saying nothing will change with an attitude like that, many have tried, none have succeeded. I'm a realist, that's all.

Too many thing are wrong in he world, but a few people bitching about them won't fix them - it's just the way it is.

Fight the battles you can win, leave the ones you can't. You'll drive yourself crazy otherwise.

Everyone has a line when it comes to killing another living creature.

You place yours somewhere between dog (not OK) chicken (OK), the only thing that changes is the justification we believe. This is a personal belief everybody comes to through experience, knowledge, society and custom. Dogs are eaten in China, cows are worshipped in India.

If you were soulless and money hungry you would kill anything, and money and entertainment could be your justification. Very few rich people lack the hunger for money, and they seem to have found their justification, and it differs from yours.

Not supporting the destruction of greyhounds on mass, just playing devils advocate.

And it would appear my justification levels differ from yours, just don't believe re-homing is the only answer. People will always find a pet when they go looking, unfortunately not all potential pets can find a home, it really is a numbers game, and the odds are not stacked in the animals favour.

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Interesting, you are comparing killing an animal for eating to killing an animal for the purpose of entertainment or just plain gambling
Definitive we are not in the same page on this one...........

Not sure we aren't on the same page... just trying to point out everyone's moral standards will draw the line in different places.

Now how about: the difference between killing animals that are valued family pets (Woofla the kids' cherished pet mongrel) and killing feral/dangerous dogs that are menacing sheep, or worse, killing small children. Sometimes these are the same dog! Both involves killing dogs and not eating them. Also many chickens (cocks) and stock animals (sheep, cattle etc) are killed for reasons that have nothing to do with eating them, e.g. disease control, drought etc. So your distinction is only clear in your own head.

BTW I don't support the gambling industry, but shutting down the dog racing racket is a pipe dream, there's a lot of crook money supporting it.

And cheer up Chucaro, I still pat a friendly mutt on the head if it doesn't attack me first!

Do not take me wrong I am not a dreamer but believe that with pressure the public can force the authorities to regulate the join and reduce the dog fatalities.
Perhaps and investigation discover that there are some puppy farmers? I do not know but for sure there is a room for improvement.

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Do not take me wrong I am not a dreamer but believe that with pressure the public can force the authorities to regulate the join and reduce the dog fatalities.
Perhaps and investigation discover that there are some puppy farmers? I do not know but for sure there is a room for improvement.

Puppy farms is a whole other can of worms....

I agree with your passion on this - and maybe at some stage a large enough group may get together and be able to put pressure on someone to look at this. The Anti Jumps Racing brigade are a well organised group, with lots of people and quite some money behind them - and in all reality have had little effect on trying to ban Jumps racing - one or two steps forward, and one or two back, so we have a fair way to go yet before someone starts to listen.

It's very hard to go against the gambling industry.

We became aware of a "Puppy Farm" supplying a chian of pet stores in our state,a quiet word in the right ears, and wallah! a visit from RSPCA and Local Council with Police escort,farm shut down, 3 months later were back in operation,the lure of $$$$ was too much. these people have fronted court several times

Originally Posted by scarry

Back to the OP topic

I think it is disgraceful,but probably not a lot can be done about it.Pretty hard to stop gambling and a whole industry overnight.Sure,things can probably be done better,maybe the regulaters need to step in.

Mate of mine has Greyhounds,and thats just what they do

Sure,rehoming would be good,but there are way to many dogs around that need rehoming,even if there were no greyhounds around as well.

When i was an apprentice,i remember working on the cold/freezer rooms at Vet .Sciences at the Qld Uni.The rooms were full of greyhounds,so some do go to a better cause than being wasted.

And they were appreciated in that role. I was a student at UQ from 1994-1998 and we learned much from the greyhounds. All looked after as best possible and overseen by Animal a Ethics Comittees.

Alas the vocal moral minority has put a stop to this and do now the first piece of serious dissection/surgery that a vet does could well be on your horse/dog/cat/cow in a situation where you are paying for the privilege. Now that is scary!

I dont outright object to Greyhound or Horse racing, but I do object to gambling and the damage that does. What I do object to is the mistreatment of these animals. They have worked hard and deserve a peaceful retirement, not just put down. Yes they are a business for their owners, but that does not give them the right to just dispose of them when no longer wanted. I think the industry should be bound to contribute to a fund that allows rehabilitation and resettlement of these animals. Not all trainers and owners are like this some actually do take care of their retirees.
As for comparing these animals to those raised for food that is just idiotic, on that basis we should be eating Pandas and Elephants.