Speed + Stupidity = ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bee utey

AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES - REG 141

---

I just looked it up too. Not sure if my memory is fading or I read something else. Oh well, I retract my statements about it being illegal to undertake.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Landie333

Don't know about you, but I don't change lanes on highways that far out.

---

And that make you right how? ;)

If at the start of the video the truck driver was in the left lane, that distance from the vehicle in front, most prudent drivers would say he would have been travelling too close.

It never ceases to amaze me the people that come roaring up behind other drivers on the Hume, with the right lane clear, and only merge to overtake in the last few metres :mad:

But hey, what would I know? :coplight:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Landie333

At the beginning of the video, the truck is somewhere around 80 odd metres behind the vehicle in front. The truck is well and truly in the right hand lane in the beginning. So based on that, you can take a guestimate and say the truck probably started to move into the right lane 150 metres from the vehicle in front to be completely in the right lane 80 metres out. Based off the speed of the truck and taking the assumption he was in the right lane to pass that vehicle.

Don't know about you, but I don't change lanes on highways that far out. I do a fair amount of highway driving and I would say most truckies and car drivers don't pull out that early either. That's how I've calculated he was traveling in the right lane.



My understanding is the posted speeds are limits. Not requirements. Although, there is a certain percentage underneath the posted limits that is the 'minimum' you can travel. Because driving too slow to the rest of the traffic is considered dangerous and I think it falls under dangerous driving.

---

Typical statement by someone that has no idea of truck driving or the braking dynamics of a loaded truck :twisted:
A car traverling at 100 ks could stop in that distance easy:cool: A truck either a B double or a single would struggle to stop in 150 metres :cool:
I my self deal with idiots like this every day as i am a owner driver

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Treads

It's pretty obvious that the truck was actively overtaking, not just hogging the right lane.

---

I agree the truck was overtaking but can not see from that vid if he had pulled out in front of the car or he had been in the RH lane for yonks .I do drive a truck I know they are allowed to use the RH lane .I am not saying the truckie was hogging the RH lane just trying to be objective:confused:

AM

Speaking of idiot drivers, and bike riders...

I found this in my travels elsewhere on the interwebs

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2HKBQMQmbw]Audi R8 X Kawasaki Ninja ZX10R X Suzuki GSXR1000 - YouTube[/ame]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Treads

And that make you right how? ;)

Never said I was.

most prudent drivers would say he would have been travelling too close.

And that make you right how?;)

It never ceases to amaze me the people that come roaring up behind other drivers on the Hume, with the right lane clear, and only merge to overtake in the last few metres :mad:

It is annoying and no one gets tested on high speed etiquette which is sad.

---

...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by rangieman

Typical statement by someone that has no idea of truck driving or the braking dynamics of a loaded truck :twisted:
A car traverling at 100 ks could stop in that distance easy:cool: A truck either a B double or a single would struggle to stop in 150 metres :cool:
I my self deal with idiots like this every day as i am a owner driver

---

Never driven a truck. I can understand but don't know what it's like to put the anchors on a rig that's pulling 80t. The most I've pulled is another car and know how much that changes your ability to pull up.

But from what I've seen (which doesn't make me right) there are also a lot of truck drivers out there who clearly have no idea (or care) about the braking dynamics of a loaded truck either.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bee utey

AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES - REG 141

So it is legal in the right circumstances.:)

---

That refers to 'from the same lane', so it's legal to overtake on the left in a seperate (marked) lane.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Landie333

I just looked it up too. Not sure if my memory is fading or I read something else. Oh well, I retract my statements about it being illegal to undertake.

---

It certainly used to be illegal in NSW. Some of the newer Road Rules do not appear to have valid and careful consideration before they are foisted on the community.

One of the worst changes was that vehicles in a merging left lane now cannot merge in some circumstances if there is a vehicle bearing down on them from behind in the lane they need to enter.

This applies when the broken lane line continues to the kerb and a driver cannot cross the marked line (change lanes) EXCEPT where there is a sign that instructs "Left Lane Merge Right" or if the broken line stops and does not continue to the kerb - Confused???

So, somebody keeping to the left as required is unable to continue into the traffic flow in some circumstances. What is a truck driver or caravan tower supposed to do. Stop and sit there apparently - and then start from a standstill?

The old interpretation was that any following vehicle should slow and allow the merge to occur. Anyway the following vehicle really ought to also be in the left lane but will claim they were overtaking if there is an accident. Potentially both can be charged. One - failing to avoid a collision, the other changing lanes without safety.

What about the old "Give Way to the Right" rule - pretty simple. Look how complicated they have made giving way these days. So it has become give way to the bullies, the P-platers, the tradies in their bosses ute, the landscape gardener in the beat-up tipper, taxis and couriers and all the other impatient mongrels with scraped and dented vehicles.

Bob

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Landie333

At the beginning of the video, the truck is somewhere around 80 odd metres behind the vehicle in front. The truck is well and truly in the right hand lane in the beginning. So based on that, you can take a guestimate and say the truck probably started to move into the right lane 150 metres from the vehicle in front to be completely in the right lane 80 metres out. Based off the speed of the truck and taking the assumption he was in the right lane to pass that vehicle.

Don't know about you, but I don't change lanes on highways that far out. I do a fair amount of highway driving and I would say most truckies and car drivers don't pull out that early either. That's how I've calculated he was traveling in the right lane.

---

Or he also passed a vehicle following the ute and trailer. A heavy vehicle has to keep a 200 metre gap, not very practical as demonstrated by the video.