Driveway tragedies

I don't know what people expect when you "average family car" is now a 3ton **** tank rather than a volvo wagon.

Having said that, some of the kids getting run over are toddlers/crawlers... Kids that should in no way be outside .... Well *anywhere* without supervision.

Given the number of cars on the roads, the incredibly cramped condition they build housing under (with lack of back yards) combined with the utter stupidity of driving a 3ton truck as a "family car" .... what else can anyone expect.

Bring back the family wagon !!! Drive a 3ton 4wd then something like an old wagon and see which is better. I was one of 4 kids growing up and we had one of these... 8people, drives better than any 3ton **** tank ever made (and the majority of sedans ever made).

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Only about 1million times better than a prado in every way. If a toddler gets behind them .... there still going to get squished :( At least you had a chance as you can see any child capable of standing out the back window.

seeya,
Shane L.

I take and pick up my 6 years old grandson from school every and I can say that many mothers at these times of the day they do not see pedestrian crossing, children in car parks,etc.
They are in a mission, take the kids to school and run to work.
Bloody rat race and to that you adding the stress to make ends meet and we have big chances to have an accident.
Are people loosing the plot and have the priorities changed or is just the only way to live in the big smoke?

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

I take and pick up my 6 years old grandson from school every and I can say that many mothers at these times of the day they do not see pedestrian crossing, children in car parks,etc.
They are in a mission, take the kids to school and run to work.
Bloody rat race and to that you adding the stress to make ends meet and we have big chances to have an accident.
Are people loosing the plot and have the priorities changed or is just the only way to live in the big smoke?

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It's the "Me" generation that has all the rights in the world and who's definition of responsibility is 'that thing which is other people's concern'.

G'day Double Chevron :)

Most people neither had or would spend the money to buy or maintain a Citreon,and the ID/DS series were to most Australians Gawd Awful :D mechanically brilliant,but most 1950/60/70's Australian mechanics were schooled in British and US sourced cars,things like Disc brakes,boosted drum brakes, and independent suspension was to them fairly new and fancy,only when Holdens and Falcons began to go to discs did things change,there was only one Citreon dealer/service centre in Brisbane for many years and Boy, did he know how to charge! a little bit like Rover dealers all $$$$$$.

The most important thing to those folk was home ownership, and a car was a means of transport,only in the last 20 or so years has a car or cars be come a statement.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I don't know what people expect when you "average family car" is now a 3ton **** tank rather than a volvo wagon.

Having said that, some of the kids getting run over are toddlers/crawlers... Kids that should in no way be outside .... Well *anywhere* without supervision.

Given the number of cars on the roads, the incredibly cramped condition they build housing under (with lack of back yards) combined with the utter stupidity of driving a 3ton truck as a "family car" .... what else can anyone expect.

Bring back the family wagon !!! Drive a 3ton 4wd then something like an old wagon and see which is better. I was one of 4 kids growing up and we had one of these... 8people, drives better than any 3ton **** tank ever made (and the majority of sedans ever made).

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...1&d=1385596818


Only about 1million times better than a prado in every way. If a toddler gets behind them .... there still going to get squished :( At least you had a chance as you can see any child capable of standing out the back window.

seeya,
Shane L.

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Except that you can't just "bring back " a body style..... Ford and Holden used to make station wagons , now they barely make cars. Market forces at play.

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G'day Double Chevron :)

Most people neither had or would spend the money to buy or maintain a Citreon,and the ID/DS series were to most Australians Gawd Awful :D mechanically brilliant,but most 1950/60/70's Australian mechanics were schooled in British and US sourced cars,things like Disc brakes,boosted drum brakes, and independent suspension was to them fairly new and fancy,only when Holdens and Falcons began to go to discs did things change,there was only Citreon dealer/service centre in Brisbane for many years and Boy, did he know how to charge! a little bit like Rover dealers all $$$$$$.

The most important thing to those folk was home ownership, and a car was a means of transport,only in the last 20 or so years has a car or cars be come a statement.

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No, no, no ... Even Citroen don't make Citroens any longer, they make crappy modern throw away stuff with ****ty crashy pretend suspension.

I mean the layout. Nice big family wagon, sitting on normal road tires, at sedan car height that allows me to drive on normal roads (even my wifes crappy poogoe 407 smashes it's nose into the ground and sits so low I can't drive it into a lot of carparks).

Something like a Falcon wagon, 3 rows of seats, nice ugly boxy shape (if it's not boxy, it's got no space inside, look at the useless sleek looking wagons they make these days). nice 4cylinder turbo diesel (of V6 LPG), decent manual gearbox. It can be done !!!

It never happen though 'cos all the middle aged women want 3ton **** tanks, if they can't afford that they get those ****ty looking "pretend" 4wd (that are usually 2wds :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling: ) just so they can try and pretend they are as cool as the chubby middle aged women driving prados.

My sister (with two kids) HAD to have a 4wd a few years back.... It was the most hideious disgusting piece of excrement I've ever driven in my life (some bloody ford thing with 4 wheel cart springs).... Get this, she bogged it out the front of the kids school on a wet big of grass. She kept asking all the middle aged women picking up there kids in there 3ton **** tanks "How do I put it into 4wd" ..... And none of them could tell her :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling: She was smart enough not to ring me and ask ( it would take me 1/2 an hour of rolling on the floor laughing histericaly before I could even begin to explain what that little gearstick and locking hubs are for). The entire time all the sensible people with decent FWD cars come and went parking on the wet bit of grass like it was nothing.

Evenualy someone stopped and showed her how to put it into 4wd ... I'd have left her there myself :wasntme:

Do I need to mention the time they went "4wding" when they were up at the Murray River ?? I asked them did they have any trouble unlocking the front hubs (they tend to stick if not used often)..... "What do you mean" .............. They had done some serious 4wding without the hubs in for sure :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

seeya,
Shane L.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

The child has recently discovered that if she climbs onto her toy box, she can reach the door handle.

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Our two year old can reach the handle and unlock the door if the key is left in it. Our habit is to lock the door and take the key out of the lock, otherwise she can get outside without us knowing.

IMO if a toddler is behind a Citroen 2CV ( :cool: )the driver will be not able to see him trough the rear window.
This accidents do not have nothing to do with the type of vehicle is a combination of drivers lost concentration, kids not supervised and other factors

Do your around the vehicle check, but mirrors certainly are worth looking into.

Have a look at the back of a late model van and you will see there is a mirror, that mirror has the purpose of letting the driver see into the blind spot behind their vehicle.

Ref; Toyota Hilux Vigo Accessory, Trinidad & Tobago (Toyota Hilux Vigo, Isuzu D-max, Mazda BT50, Mitsubishi Triton)

http://www.worldstylingtt.com/backen...4p2775img1.jpg

Ref; Sunkiss Development Co., Ltd.--Rear-mounted LED reverse mirror | CENS.com - Taiwan Industry Updates | Supplier News | HTML |Ta2-CaA, G, L, V-Dy2009/04/08-Id27005

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The layout of a nice big family wagon is now a Ford Territory or a Prado which is the Mummy's vehicle of choice,it used to be Nissan Patrols,just drive part on the footpath to pick up their "Childs":o which I used to and still do see at our local schools, and that is from a school bus driver's seat,"SCHOOL BUS ONLY" signs are for everybody else except them :mad: and for the private schools it is ML250's and Audi Q7's.