Some people are one eyed LR haters, often for no good reason, and logic will not help you win an argument with them.
That's life.
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Originally Posted by weeds
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Some people are one eyed LR haters, often for no good reason, and logic will not help you win an argument with them.
That's life.
Poof. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by weeds
Two of the greatest myths of the motoring world.Landrovers always break down,toyotas never do.Im not saying i've never had trouble with any of mine since i bought my first old rangie in the early nineties,but i've worked with plenty of people with toyotas that were nothing but trouble.I reckon a few people who claim to have owned a landrover on forums and it was a pos are full of it.I think nissotas are great vehicles as a rule,but i prefer to drive landrovers.Nissotas are like white goods to me,do the job well,but i cant get passionate about the microwave:p
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Originally Posted by rangietragic
Hi
I will be in the market for a near new for touring dual cab ute next year, a 2.2Litre 130 dual cab is in my sights atm and the reputation about Landy does concern me.
I plan to use it for extended remote touring and worries about clutches, egr valves, gearboxes, front prop-shafts, rover/P38 diffs, weak steering gear means.I will probably end up putting,to some extent, aftermarket gear on to improve reliability.
I really don't think this is good enough, especially this late in a very very long production run.
The small dual cabs really lack the versatility off road of the 130. The Toyota 70 series is DC tempting but frankly overpriced I don't plan on towing so the V8 is of little real use.
That said some of the stuff said about landies is complete bs, parts are very reasonable, they are easy to work on and there so much good gear out there for 'em.
I read the first page or so of that site, there are some passionate LR haters there. :eek: What I was wondering is why they weren't mentioning that Land Rovers break axles as it seems that is the ilk of their passion.
No one even mentions that Land Cruisers were splitting transfer cases, 3 litre Nissans has significant failures or that 1 litre of oil per 1000Km was normal on a LC200 series.
Spoken by 90% who have never owned a landy before, so need to continue the bad reputation ,Quote:
Originally Posted by goingbush
and the other 9% of people who have had a landy but had issues, and the last 1% of people that knew what they were talking about.
Remember meeting people on the Canning stock Route who sold their Disco's because they were told they would never make it.
Had several comment on how much we would regret the trip before we went because we weren't in a Cruiser,spoken so confidently by all non land rover owners.
The whole reason why I dont read forum sites like the 1 mentioned.
Cheers Ean
Yes I got bored after reading about two thirds of the way down the first page. Written mostly by ill-informed idiots - but who cares. Let them drive whatever they like. I know why I'm on my fourth Landrover and third consecutive Disco.
Fortunately, very few people actually take any notice of forums like Whirlpool. It's pretty obvious that the place is largely frequented by a bunch of losers with not much more to do than to whinge or to bag out products that they are never likely to be able to afford in any case. The vast majority of them have no idea at all about the topics that they are posting on - it's not even worth the effort of joining to correct them or to argue with them.
There's one or two on there who do know what they are talking about - but they are sadly in the minority. Certainly seems to be a few horror stories about some of the dealerships though, if some of what is posted on there is to be believed. My experience with Landrover dealerships to date though, has been exactly the opposite.
When people ask me for opinions etc on Landrovers (and plenty do) - I refer them to this site and tell them that they are far more likely to be told the true story - both good AND bad points - about any model that they are interested in. ;)
Heard plenty of horror stories about dealers,only experience i've ever had was years ago on the gold coast,went into dealership and enquired about trading my p38 on a d3.Persuaded salesman to test drive d3 but he seemed totally dissinterested.Would not reccomend that dealership.
Interesting read that forum, reminds me of a mate of mine who is a mechanic with his own business, owns 2 Land Cruisers, self confessed Toyota fan (there is no other 4WD). When I mentioned I was looking around for D1 a few years ago his first comment was "Pretty reliable vehicle if you keep the maintenance up", his second comment, "get a defender there bullet proof".
We are always having a go at each other regarding branding, reliability and reputation, he also comments he has just as many Land Cruisers in the shop for repairs, currently we are planning a Cape York trip for later next year so will be running my D1 and his 75 series ute, should be a good trip.
The point I was vaguely getting to is that I have found most people who bag LR are those that don't research there info, rather they repeat hear say and listen to very well thought out marketing from LR competitors.
Those that actually do know a thing or two regarding mechanicals generally like the LR brand but as mentioned they fall out of favour with electrical issues and poor service back up............ my 2 cents worth
Clive, I can tell you now your new Defender, if you go that path, will give you a degree of grief. But it will also be probably the best vehicle you own. And you will not understand this until you own one.Quote:
Originally Posted by clive22
Initially I lost confidence with mine over a rouge electrical issue that continued. Thought I could never trust it to go remote, and that I have bought the wrong vehicle. However since then I have been quite remote on my own with just family. Even further remote with a group. And use it as a daily work car, weekend camper, and put 100K on it in 3 years. Yes it has had it's issues, but not once have I had to justify a thing to the dealer. They just fixed it.
Every vehicle has weakness's, LC's it's front diffs, oil usage, cracking in firewalls, rough ride and sagging suspension. But they are a great reliable truck I hear. Oh that fuel economy is also great. Almost every patrol ute owner I have met has caved in the rear chassis from weight, having to insert a cross member to fix what the manufacturer hasn't. The 3lt is a real gamble, and I'm sure there are a number of inherent issues with the mark as well. But they may not tell you unless your a close mate.