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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Really? What legislation is that?

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    Your right plenty of legislation but no hasher penalties they all refer pack to the general crime of assault

    PS: unless you speak harshly then there are specific penalties( racial vilification)

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    The thing is, we are "supposed" to be a modern, wealthy civilised country. This is not South Sudan or Syria. Do police have to wear riot gear every time they go on patrol? The moment we see that, we know we have lost the plot, to see a police officer now on the job, with all the gear they carry makes me fear for our future.

    Our society really needs to look at itself and question the direction we are heading because I for one am very cautious now if I want to go into town at night to go to the pictures or see a show. Never used to be like that at all.

    The availability of alcohol needs curtailing and judges really need to clamp down on anybody accused of dealing drugs or assaulting people. I can understand the frustration of a copper who goes to the trouble of arresting somebody doing the wrong thing, going through all the paperwork, attending court only to see the judge let the offender off with a warning.

    As far as I am concerned, you do the wrong thing you go to the slammer, full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfree View Post
    Do police have to wear riot gear every time they go on patrol? The moment we see that, we know we have lost the plot, to see a police officer now on the job, with all the gear they carry makes me fear for our future.
    Riot Gear???

    Mate, other than tasers we really don't carry anything more than 'back in the day'; it's just that it's now usually carried on load bearing chest platforms, instead of around the waist on belts. It's simply about common sense and occupational safety for us ie. the strain that handcuffs, baton, spray, radio and a loaded pistol put on your back when wearing it on the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    Riot Gear???

    Mate, other than tasers we really don't carry anything more than 'back in the day'; it's just that it's now usually carried on load bearing chest platforms, instead of around the waist on belts. It's simply about common sense and occupational safety for us ie. the strain that handcuffs, baton, spray, radio and a loaded pistol put on your back when wearing it on the belt.
    When I was a young Constable, the total appointments were a revolver with six bullets and handcuffs. My station had three cars, only one had a two way radio; in the others you to had ring in every hour at the call box at Arncliffe, Brighton-Le-Sands or Sans Souci (who can remember those) and this was a metropolitan station. The big difference between then and now.....alcohol availability. Then pubs closed at 10pm, clubs at midnight and if you wanted to drink after that, Kings Cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    I was about to comment that being licked was the only thing on your list that I didn't suffer whilst on the job today!

    I certainly didn't go in to work thinking "It's Christmas day, I'd like to get in a major dust up with a drunk this shift"
    My comment wasn't meant to offend you you but clearly did . No one goes to work to be assaulted , So let me tell you about my daughter , she also went to work on Xmas day , also boxing day . She is a carer her first job was to change nappies on old people , there family's didn't come to collect for Xmas , That's her job . Let me just say she also has 5 children at home . She earns $20 an hour , but she does It . She has also been punched , bit spat at , but she does her job . That's without complaint .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimr1 View Post
    My comment wasn't meant to offend you you but clearly did .
    No, not at all. I got a chuckle out of the typo

    The angry face was about going to work on Christmas day and dealing with the same douchebags that we deal with every other day of the year. It would have been nice to have a quiet one!

    Quote Originally Posted by jimr1 View Post
    No one goes to work to be assaulted , So let me tell you about my daughter , she also went to work on Xmas day , also boxing day . She is a carer her first job was to change nappies on old people , there family's didn't come to collect for Xmas , That's her job . Let me just say she also has 5 children at home . She earns $20 an hour , but she does It . She has also been punched , bit spat at , but she does her job . That's without complaint .
    Carers, nurses, ambos, etc should have even more protection than us. At least I can punch & kick back (I'll leave out the lick bit ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugu80 View Post
    When I was a young Constable, the total appointments were a revolver with six bullets and handcuffs.

    *cough* dinosaur *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    Riot Gear???

    Mate, other than tasers we really don't carry anything more than 'back in the day'; it's just that it's now usually carried on load bearing chest platforms, instead of around the waist on belts. It's simply about common sense and occupational safety for us ie. the strain that handcuffs, baton, spray, radio and a loaded pistol put on your back when wearing it on the belt.
    Lucky you. Not all Australian police get Tasers.

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    I can also tell you size matters, despite what the warm and fuzzy P.C. crowd say. In my early days cops were male and of a minimum size standard (lets not got into the rights and wrongs, the truth is, in certain situations [particularly domestics], women are better). I am 185cm and, in those days, 110kgs with regular (heavy) weight training so it wasn't all fat. I was a cyclist for most of my career and thus working solo and hardly ever had anyone want to take me on. One example in particular, backed up locals at pub for 'man refusing to leave'. The local were there first and when I went in there was a young male Constable (about 60kgs) and a young female Constable about the same kgs. The male Const was grabbing the arm of the 90 odd kg guy to be ejected who would just swing his arm back and fling off the young copper like an annoying insect, then go back to his beer. I stepped in and grabbed his arm; he tried to fling me off but this time his arm didn't move. He looked around (at my chest where the head of the other, smaller cop would have been), looked up, thought for a second and then just said, "Alright. I'm leaving" and just walked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    So that makes it right, does it?
    No, it's not right. Why would you need to ask?

    What do you expect will happen when police take on a violet person, particularly a violet intoxicated person? Do you think it will make any difference at all if the penalty for assault on police is greater? Do you think a violent intoxicated or drug effected person will go:

    "Oh it's the police, I'll just lie down and put my hands behind my back because if I try and fight them I might go to gaol for longer than if I just punch some random citizen".

    People who assault police are beyond reason and it wouldn't matter what the penalty was, they would still take the same action. The only difference is the copper might get a bit more satisfaction.

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