Lowest road toll in 90 years - why?

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

That would require a change of legislation, Mick. Whilst suicide is a crime, the attempt of suicide is not. :confused:
I wonder what the penalty for suicide is, I don't think anybody has been prosecuted for it recently.

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Doesn't change my suggestion. Do the crime, do the time.

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Originally Posted by ScottW

Yes, but the QLD government are keen on making the entire state into criminals at the moment with their over the top new laws.

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As far as speedo accuracy, up until July 2006 this rule specified an accuracy of +/- 10 percent of the vehicle’s true speed when the vehicle was travelling above 40km/h.

So any car built before July 2006 is now unroadworthy? My wife's old Suzuki Jimny read 2-3% under. That was a 2002 vehicle with full electronic speedo, no cable. Basically the QLD government gives no regard for ADR's or common sense. It's all $$$. (and bikies)

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I agree with your sentiment. The year of manufacture dictates which ADR's are applied. It's a pity the year of manufacture don't dictate which road rules are applied.

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Originally Posted by gusthedog

Lowest road toll in 90 years -why?

Because less people died :wasntme:

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Not quite.

Strictly speaking, it is because fewer people died. :D


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/less-or-fewer
Use fewer if you’re referring to people or things in the plural (e.g. houses, newspapers, dogs, students, children). For example:

People these days are buying fewer newspapers.
Fewer students are opting to study science-related subjects.
Fewer than thirty children each year develop the disease.

Use less when you’re referring to something that can’t be counted or doesn’t have a plural (e.g. money, air, time, music, rain). For example:

It’s a better job but they pay you less money.
People want to spend less time in traffic jams.
Ironically, when I’m on tour, I listen to less music.

Yep, its fewer with countables (houses, cars etc) and less with the uncountable (air, water etc). End of grammer rave.


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You will probably find that Newmann is busy collecting money so he can pay back those that bankrolled his election campaign ;)

Yes, particularly since Clive Palmer stopped funding the LNP because they wouldn't give him a monopoly on the railway line to his and several other coal mines.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

Not quite.

Strictly speaking, it is because fewer people died. :D


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/less-or-fewer
Use fewer if you’re referring to people or things in the plural (e.g. houses, newspapers, dogs, students, children). For example:

People these days are buying fewer newspapers.
Fewer students are opting to study science-related subjects.
Fewer than thirty children each year develop the disease.

Use less when you’re referring to something that can’t be counted or doesn’t have a plural (e.g. money, air, time, music, rain). For example:

It’s a better job but they pay you less money.
People want to spend less time in traffic jams.
Ironically, when I’m on tour, I listen to less music.

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My apologies for using incorrect grammar discomick and vnx205 :TakeABow: I was unaware my response would be offensive in that way. I was trying to be offensive in other ways and I will endeavor to use appropriate grammar when making lame jokes in the future :D

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

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Imagine what would happen if the motoring organizations backed a campaign to have every mnotorist refuse to pay any speeding fine for going up to 5km/h over the speed limit, on the grounds that road conditions constantly vary and its inevitable that everyone will occasionally slip over the limit by a small amount, so booking them for that is harassment and not really about road safety.
The number of unpaid fines for doing up to 5km/h over the limit would skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands within a few months. What are governments going to do? The amounts owing would quickly rise as payment deadlines passed. Are state governments going to arrest everyone with one of those unpaid fines? Really?
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Actually in NSW not paying a fine (even a parking fine) gets your registration cancelled, you then end up with driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle. A massively more costly exercise than the fine for less than 10KM over the posted limit.

Same in Qld, not paying a fine (including council fines such as a parking fine or dog not on a leash) gets your licence suspended, meaning you are then driving unlicensed and uninsured for something that may not even be related to driving.

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Originally Posted by lyonsy

Prob a bit late but I would think that a 2ton vechile is what most consider a large vehicle.
Yes a 90s disco would still be safer then a excell
Do a serch of the 5th gear vids and look for discovery crash test where they crash a disco into a renult md size people mover and see the results.
Most real world crashes are low speed most deaths are not from low speed.

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Disco 1 is 1905 kg and about the same size as a VW golf (LxW).

Looks safer than most to me...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhg-JaEHbo]IIHS Crash Test 1995, 1996, 1997 Land Rover Discovery - YouTube[/ame]
More deformation of the cabin than a D3/4, but about the same as a D2.

Most deaths are from people driving drunk or tired. The correlation between death and vehicle crashworthiness is tenuous in real data.