My troubles with the law continues

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

You hoon Ian.
Did they cart you off to the lockup?

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No mate, is this something I have to strive for to keep up with you? :D

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Originally Posted by Treads

What a load of ****. I assume that's just typical keyboard bravery? 'cos you couldn't be that dumb in real life? :blink:



EDIT: On second thoughts - let's go back to the good ol' days huh?

Break out the phone books lads

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No keyboard bravery here shagger, I'm happy to speak the words I type

I have no objections to "phone book" policing, everyone to there own merit and each situation to it's own, randomly pulling someone up on grounds of the appearance on the other hand...

Talking parrot dobs on drunk-driving owner

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Originally Posted by olbod

The bad guys will be targetted and prosecuted and the innocent have nothing to fear, the man said. Fair enough and the way it should be.
But what seperates the good from the bad at first glance ?
The good guys dont have an identifying halo to seperate them from the scum.
So be good and be on yer way.
But we are becoming a police state in every other way also and I hate that.
Example: dont pay the dog registration fee and you can lose your driving licence or car unregistered.

The rules are changing for the worst daily and if I had me druthers I'd druther be somewhere else but there isn't anywhere else.

Watched the movie, The Irishman, the other night and ordered the dvd yesterday.
By cripes I envy those times and freedom and remember they lived in the modern world of the day.

Sigh.

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You know, I'm sure that why our diggers went to war. Freedom, liberty, that kind of stuff. Seems it's becoming all for nothing unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Where we go wrong in Qld is, it should be law to put every vehicle over the pits every 2 years, for a roadworthy check. All defects fixed, or off the road. That might make sure most comply with the traffic laws, & may reduce the road toll. There are a lot of suss vehicles out there, Bob

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i agree with you and disagree with you!
I agree, because too many dangerous vehicles on the roads with bad bushes and shonky brakes and bad tyres etc which 100% cause accidents
I disagree because our Road worthy laws are insane at best i.e. slight weeping from engine = unroadworthy, slight chip in windscreen = unroadworthy etc etc

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Originally Posted by bmw535guy

i agree with you and disagree with you!
I agree, because too many dangerous vehicles on the roads with bad bushes and shonky brakes and bad tyres etc which 100% cause accidents
I disagree because our Road worthy laws are insane at best i.e. slight weeping from engine = unroadworthy, slight chip in windscreen = unroadworthy etc etc

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Not so - you can have a cracked windscreen and chips up to 16mm as long as they are not in the area cleared by the wipers. Oil leaks are acceptable as long as nothing is dripping onto the road - the underside of the car can be covered in crud from an oil weep and still be roadworthy.

If you ever get one done, take a copy of the guidelines in with you - Vicroads - Roadworthy Requirements and ask the tester to point out exactly where an item fails. You would be surprised at how often they can't and they will remove it from the list. If they argue the point, tell the, you will seek a resolution through Vicroads - most of them will cave in when told this.

Too many people just take the testers word for gospel, even though it may not be a legitimate item they are failing. If it isn't on that list I've attached a link to, then they can't pick on it.:)

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Originally Posted by bacicat

Not so - you can have a cracked windscreen and chips up to 16mm as long as they are not in the area cleared by the wipers. Oil leaks are acceptable as long as nothing is dripping onto the road - the underside of the car can be covered in crud from an oil weep and still be roadworthy.

If you ever get one done, take a copy of the guidelines in with you - Vicroads - Roadworthy Requirements and ask the tester to point out exactly where an item fails. You would be surprised at how often they can't and they will remove it from the list. If they argue the point, tell the, you will seek a resolution through Vicroads - most of them will cave in when told this.

Too many people just take the testers word for gospel, even though it may not be a legitimate item they are failing. If it isn't on that list I've attached a link to, then they can't pick on it.:)

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Yes i 100% agree with you but due to the extensive regulation of RWC its hard for RW testers to be on the ball.............ive read most of the regulations and some are very very confusing. Also the oil thing is kinda up in the air due to the fact that RW testers get massive fines for letting things pass so they err on the side of caution...... and even if its not dripping (which my car isnt), i have a weap in the power steering box and effectively would fail!!! also your wrong regarding scratches chips on windscreens!!!........ effectively it cant be in the direct line of sight of the driver regardless of wipers.......but then again this is kinda up in the air due to height of a person etc.....stupid law

Yeah, fair points, but it comes down to how much of a battle you want to have with your tester. Mine shudders when I walk through the door, but he is reasonable now after many animated discussions over many vehicles. He knows I'll ask him to prove every fail down to the letter - it's surprising what you can get away with if you do this.

I got a speeding camera fine last year, and I knew it wasn't me - so I rang them.

That's not me I don't have an ornage jacket !
- We don't know that sir, that's not a basis to withdraw an infringement notice.

That's not me I wasn't anywhere near the Logan motorway that day.
- Can you prove that?
Can I prove I wasn't somewhere? Umm, no.
- Well we can't withdraw it on that basis.

The number plate is obscured - its impossible to read the last digit so it could be any number of plates not just mine.
- Our investigations indicate that it matches your bike.

Ah well, you see, the bike in the photo isn't mine.
- What?
Yep, it's someone else's bike. Definitely not mine.
- How can you tell?
(What the? ) Well I have a single exhaust that bike has twin exhausts, (and a few other points)
- We'll need you to send us evidence of that...

So then I had to waste my time scanning the infringemetn notice, taking photos of my bike and pointing to the diffferences between the two and email them.

Took 3 more weeks and the notice was withdrawn. Guilty until proven innocent.

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

Took 3 more weeks and the notice was withdrawn. Guilty until proven innocent.

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Well no - you could have taken it to court and then it is up to them to prove you guilty. I would have been tempted to take that to court and advise that you would also be seeking costs and compensation for your time.