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  1. #151
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    I hope this helps, Bob


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    October last year i received my first ever speeding fine and then half an hour later i locked up the car on the wet road and had my first ever accident. It all has to come at once doesn't it. Oh to make it 3 in a row. One of my scouts was driving past at the time to see the crash.

    Well i received 2 fines in the mail. The first i was able to pay online and did as soon as it arrived. The second i had to go into the city and i paid it in person. Then the next day i headed away with work and i have only just gotten home again.

    Sitting at home is 2 letter. One is the Penalty reminder notice to say the fine is overdue and the second is the Enforcement order. Argh, not a nice thing to find when i get back.

    So i've called Cival Compliance and they informed me that the first fine has been paid off and is all good. The one i did online. The second find which i have the Enforcement order for is still unpaid. Though checking my receipt and bank account i have it listed as being paid in person and on time.

    The guy on the phone said i need to print out all these forms and send it in with my details to prove it has already been paid. Though that might take a few months. In which time the fine still needs to be paid by the due date. Which is a month away. And even though it is marked on my file that i have contacted them i still need to call every month and beg for an extension on the due dates.

    Argh he even said to me that the system is messed up. This sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTC View Post
    Argh he even said to me that the system is messed up. This sucks


    That's the part I get upset about with government agencies. One of the biggest reasons I walked away from Defence not long ago. And I loved my job

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTC View Post

    Sitting at home is 2 letter. One is the Penalty reminder notice to say the fine is overdue and the second is the Enforcement order. Argh, not a nice thing to find when i get back.

    So i've called Cival Compliance and they informed me that the first fine has been paid off and is all good. The one i did online. The second find which i have the Enforcement order for is still unpaid. Though checking my receipt and bank account i have it listed as being paid in person and on time.

    The guy on the phone said i need to print out all these forms and send it in with my details to prove it has already been paid. Though that might take a few months. In which time the fine still needs to be paid by the due date. Which is a month away. And even though it is marked on my file that i have contacted them i still need to call every month and beg for an extension on the due dates.

    Argh he even said to me that the system is messed up. This sucks
    If it was me and as you say it has been paid and you have all the paper work to prove it, I would make one phone call, document the call and then that would be it.

    I would then ignore any further demands and let it go to court. The magistrate would instantly have to throw it out.
    Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    If it was me and as you say it has been paid and you have all the paper work to prove it, I would make one phone call, document the call and then that would be it.

    I would then ignore any further demands and let it go to court. The magistrate would instantly have to throw it out.
    That's exactly what I would do too. As long as you have the time to duck into court a couple of times. It's fun to watch Magistrates get dirty with prosecutors.

    You'll probably have to plead guilty at mention and then show that you have paid the fine at Case Management Hearing (CMH). They call CMH different things in different states.

    Good luck. Rip it to'em I say.

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    If you plead guilty at first hearing the beak will impose penalty straight away nothing for him to decide you plead not guilty then present your evidence at the second hearing, it all just drags out unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOOGER View Post
    If you plead guilty at first hearing the beak will impose penalty straight away nothing for him to decide you plead not guilty then present your evidence at the second hearing, it all just drags out unfortunately

    I agree with this.

    If you are not guilty, then NEVER plead guilty.

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    It's a bit hard becasue you would actually be guilty but you cant be charged for the same offence twice.

    Happy Days.

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