General Chat - Politcal?

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Originally Posted by strangy

No one forces me to read any thread.
I open the browser and new threads appear.
More commonly now a quick look confirms another Political view point topic, which is generally ignored.
As a contributor and subscriber the regularity of the above is disappointing.
Don't read anything in "general chat" your problem is solved:D

As previously noted by others.... why did some join? other than to post endless ramblings and links to stories and political spin, IRELEVANT to LR and 4wd's.
What may seem irrelevant to you, is relevant to others, its called respecting their views and if it's irrelevant to you and everyone else ,DONT RESPOND and the thread will die!

Funny, if I subscribe to, or switch on Fox Sports, I expect to see Sports and sports related stories, editorials and news.
The subscriptions and audience would fall away quite quickly the moment someone thought the audience should here about political topics.
Hmm sports or news, Footy player/s hanging with bikies. Qld OMC laws and possible effects on others by mere association with certain groups in S.A driving big 4x4's. Holden/ford/Toyota closure nothing to do with sport, or doesn't motorsport count? Large scale unemployment in certain areas that will reduce ownership of all 4x4's not just landies, along with sponsorship $$$$ for numerous sports.

I subscribe and visit AULRO for all manner if Land Rover related trivia, technical and general information.
And there are many, many, dedicated forums with plentiful info on this site for that, maybe general chat should have in the title "not restricted to landies" ;)?
But the usual suspects believe I should expect their opinion on world politics and events to be there also despite it having no relevance to the forum and further espouse that any disagreeable comment or objection is due to a lack of education, racism or phobia.

I don't need to guess how the usual posters of political viewpoints would react if anyone visited their Left, Right, Extremist shrine websites and started posting their consistent unsolicited viewpoints on Land Rovers or any other 4wd.
The reaction so far is proof enough.

It's 4wd website people and a very good one without the self appointed keepers of Religion, Politics and thought police constantly pushing political topics.

What happened? Did they get rolled on the political websites, hence the need to have a crack here?

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For myself this is one of my main websites, I visit and I like to discuss the current news and what is happening with other LR owners. Sometimes we agree and other times we don't. Where people get going is if their belief is challenged by facts or don't want to see the full effects of their ideas. Another reason threads go in circles is people not bothering to read the posts or subject and just "cut n pasting" their spiel, which has already been answered earlier or is irrelevant in that at best would solve 3-10% of the issue and not the other 90%.:wasntme: Or make a statement and not answer a question about that statement :twisted:

please Inc...oh please mods.....please exhonorate me from sounding like I'm stirring the pot.

It wasn't me....I just made made an innocent reply.

It was all the others here to blame.

thats what it sounds like now.....week as ****.

If the repetetive, provocative threads were not started there would be no answers.

End of story.

If they are started in a Leftie loving corner only those interested would go there.

If people were not wanting a reaction, one way or the other, they wouldn't start the thread. the fact that they do gives a fair indication that they are on a hobby horse.

Have made my suggestion. Let the mods take it from here.

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Originally Posted by incisor

amen ;)

and i'll probably be damned by the lefties and the rightists for saying that...

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Or the Worshipful Order of Agnostics..... :angel:

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Perhaps a moderator could start a poll thread. BAN POLITICS FROM 'CHAT'. Yes. No.

Well, I didn't start any of the threads I assume some people don't like, but I have contributed a bit, and I don't apologise for doing that. If some people disagree, well that's fine, just as I'm entitled to disagree with them sometimes. I don't believe people should be bullied into silence for daring to disagree.
As for asylum seekers, I don't see it as a party political issue. I believe the present LNP government, the previous Labor Government, the LNP Government before that and the Labor Government before that were all wrong in the ways they handled this issue.
For me, the asylum seeker threads are not about party politics, they're about human rights. And, as far as I know, discussion of human rights is not banned on AULRO. Please say if that's wrong.
Incidentally, most of my posts on this forum are not even in General Chat.

AULRO is more than landy's and chat about them. Just as landy's are more than 4WD's. Just have a look at the list of forums (err fora?) sub fora and sub, sub fora. We have an amazing spread of people and passions on here. I can find a space for getting info and feedback on ALL my cars one day, ask for comments on what types of dog the next, and then drop in for a bit of cerebral stimulation and discussion (err **** slanging!) another day. And that's what's great about AULRO for me. It is (very nearly!) all I need from the WWW.

If we compare general chat to the campfire chats on AULRO trips then I think politics should be dropped. Our regular VIC trip attendees tend to let people know pretty quickly that sex, politics and religion are off topic by either saying "don't want to talk about it" or just walking off! And if that's general chats definition then we (we know who we are) are being pretty rude around our campfire.

In saying that, for me it really is nice to share opinions (on all sorts of subjects) and try to understand others and their perspectives. And honestly, I think a heap of us find AULRO a little like a virtual trip to the pub to blow of steam or vent at times. So I guess for me having an area where I can do this with out people getting upset by it would be best. I probably would be happy to pay a few extra dollars to AULRO for this, and can pick a few mod's who would probably be happy to look after it all (no doubt Inc included!).

As with the rest of our wonderful country, as long as no one is getting hurt, we should all enjoy the discussion and get involved. If we don't, the big mouth bullies and squeaky wheels will be the ones driving the overall dialogue and agenda for us all. And like pie shops charging for sauce, that just isn't Australian!

All IMHO if course. Inc is God here, so whatever he wants is 100% fine by me.

I think some of the political threads should be allowed.

Quite often they expand what has been reported in the media & give you greater insight into the issue or you research the topic more if it interests you.

To go the way of sticking our heads in the sand and not reporting or commenting is not good either.

One of my new years resolutions was to attend some council meetings because I am sick of laws being introduced by minority groups that have more say than they should purely because the are better at lobbying.

I recently challenged our council about the ratepayers money being spent on opposing the proposed East West Link in Melbourne when most people I know are in favour of it. Their answer was the motion was raised & passed in a council meeting.

The other political bug bear is those that say we are paid to much in this country. Compare our wages to those in comparable 1st world .countries

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Originally Posted by DT-P38

AULRO is more than landy's and chat about them. Just as landy's are more than 4WD's. Just have a look at the list of forums (err fora?) sub fora and sub, sub fora. We have an amazing spread of people and passions on here.

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This is what has made AULRO a favorite forum of mine.
Its like no other forum I am a member on.
AULRO is a place where you can talk about more than the vehicle of interest.


I know Im probably considered as a 'lefty', due to my shark rant.
But healthy and supported discussion is a part of life.
There will always be differing points of view, and friendly banter is always a good way of getting the grey matter ticking over.


Like others have said, if a thread is causing you such distress.
1) Leave the thread.
2) Do not be baited into a reply.
3) Do not return to the thread...

All future butthurt can be avoided by these simple steps :D

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

please Inc...oh please mods.....please exhonorate me from sounding like I'm stirring the pot.

It wasn't me....I just made made an innocent reply.

It was all the others here to blame.

thats what it sounds like now.....week as ****.

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This thread is about politics, not identifying the spiel, the 3% solutions or the catch cry statements unanswered. If we go down that path the thread will have suffered amassive derailment and gone back over ground already covered elsewhere.