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    any other feed back on the engine shut down/restart at lights etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    any other feed back on the engine shut down/restart at lights etc?
    In terms of it's operation, it is very impressive. My Golf restarts before the clutch is even half way dipped. It's clever enough to sense when there has been repeated stop/starts, and then turns the feature off. It constantly monitors the battery state of charge, and turns the alternator clutch on when needed (you can tell because it revs slightly higher than normal at idle).

    It is seamless in operation though, not really noticeable at all.

    It is very friendly for a learner driver though. My daughter was using it to learn in - if you ever stall it, all you do is dip the clutch and instant restart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    Yep.




    That'll have to be a few years down the track. I think only myself & my wife could reach the pedals at the moment - and she usually falls asleep in the car. Tricky to balance a child capsule as well.

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    It is very friendly for a learner driver though. My daughter was using it to
    learn in - if you ever stall it, all you do is dip the clutch and instant
    restart! __________________
    What happens when she gets in a car that doesn't do that? I suggest you disable it if possible when she is learning. Aircon on?
    I hope you haven't got auto parking also.LOL Or collision avoidance for that matter.
    Regards Philip A

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    What happens when she gets in a car that doesn't do that? I suggest you disable it if possible when she is learning. Aircon on?
    I hope you haven't got auto parking also.LOL Or collision avoidance for that matter.
    Regards Philip A
    She's not a learner any more.

    And she did have 50% of her 100 hours logbook experience in other cars, so she knows all about the standard restart routine. And I made her learn in a manual - easier to go from manual to auto than the other way round.

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    She's not a learner any more.
    That's great to hear and congratulations if you still have your sanity.

    I just had this vision of a learner in one of those all singing , dancing cars like a Ford Focus with park assist, collision avoidance voice activation and auto restart, driving an old Corolla for the first time.

    Being stuck at the lights waiting for restart, then rear ending someone because they expected the car to stop itself, then having no idea on how to park it after the accident because the car did it for him/her and having no idea on how to call and then talking to the car about it.
    Would be a great utube , and hey I saw a trailer last night promoting a TV show about just that type of thing.
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    I have that same vision.

    Maybe some of the world's navies have the right idea. Don't some of them do some of the new recruits' early training in sailing vessels?

    Perhaps learners should start in a vehicle like the one in which my mother learned to drive. It was Dad's 30cwt Commer truck with no synchro on any gears, no power steering, no ABS, ESC or any other acronym.

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    Yep, a series 2a was great to learn in - unforgiving.

    I was talking to a new A class merc owner the other day.

    A consistant 2.7lt/100 on the newell he was saying. Now that is staggering!!!

    Apparently the Ford Territory wad supposed to have a puma derived motor not long after it's release; however the project manager went to work in the U.S and an American took the reigns and scrapped the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benji View Post
    Yep, a series 2a was great to learn in - unforgiving.

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    I have been teaching my twelve and fifteen year old grandchildren to drive (on the property) in the 2a. They are actually finding it fairly easy - don't know any better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discomark View Post
    Did a round trip from Sydney to Port Macquarie (360km x2) this weekend in the Wifes Hyundai i30 diesel. On the trip North we used 4.9lts per 100km (no aircon) and on the return trip 5.1lts per 100km (Aircon on and 36c).
    This is as good or better than my 800cc motorcycle

    Who needs a hybrid

    ... and significantly better than my 1400cc bike.

    Oh and nobody needs a hybrid.

    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR View Post
    Bet you don't get the same smile as when I bury my foot and burn through 17L/100km in my Classic Rangie
    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    ... Wish I could get 'only' 17 litres/100.... Mine guzzles 20 l/100
    My LSE would use 22+ with the foot buried. If you think they are bad on the road try in Sand.... ahem, 30l/100kms anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    - Which is why I now drive a Mazda 121, around 7.5 litres/100 and three times quicker than the Classic.
    You know what's intriguing? We are buying Christine (my missus) a new Mazda3. It's flash as bro. We are getting the 2l petrol engine. Combined cycle 5.7l/100kms It's more efficient than the current Mazda2 !

    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    whats the consensus on the engines shutting off and restarting automatically in regards to long term ware and tare?
    The new Mazda3 has this system too. (I may be mistaken but I think the FL2 was the first car on the Aus market with this feature?)

    Anyway it worked seamlessly on the test drive I was impressed. We are getting the auto and as soon as you let your foot off the brake the engine restarts in less time than it takes for your foot to get to the go pedal It will also restart with any significant steering input. It's manually switchable though in case it starts infuriating you in stop start traffic. I do love a switch.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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