Weight Lifting

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Originally Posted by MR LR

You do realise that just because a piece of paper says a bloke can only lift 25kg doesn't mean that's his actual limit...

I judge there was a bit of tongue in cheek with the original post ;) and take mine that way too :D

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No such thing as tongue in cheek for that one. You are quite correct.
It has been determined that the poorest specimen of less than average fitness should be able to lift 25kg without injury. The benchmark has been set. If you lift over that and injure yourself, your fault mate. If you lift under that and injure yourself, that is a very very rare thing.
It's all about risk management.

Both at work and in the gym technique is everything, but the gym is a much more controlled environment. I do weights at the gym, muscle mass makes a big difference in weight control. You are much more likely to get better weight loss and VO2 max results from 10 minutes of high intensity interval training followed by 20 minutes of weights 3-4 times per week, than an hour of moderate intensity excercise on the treadmill 5 days per week.

If you are just starting in the gym, I would recommend getting a trainer for a few sessions to show you how to use the weights properly.

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Originally Posted by bacicat

The limits at our work are 20kg for a male, and 15kg for a female. It's all to do with limiting injury through bad manual handling techniques and nothing to do with what people may be actually able to lift.

I know V-line have the same 20kg limit as Mum tried to check a bag in when travelling down from her home town by train to go to the airport. She could move it and lift it, but when they put it on the scales, it was 22kg and they refused it so she had to lug it onto the train on her own. They are happy to allow a 70 year old to do this and aren't allowed to help as it breaches policy....

Go figure.

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in aus post they have some thing similar but on goes a sticker and 2 people can lift it

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Originally Posted by bacicat

The limits at our work are 20kg for a male, and 15kg for a female. It's all to do with limiting injury through bad manual handling techniques and nothing to do with what people may be actually able to lift.

I know V-line have the same 20kg limit as Mum tried to check a bag in when travelling down from her home town by train to go to the airport. She could move it and lift it, but when they put it on the scales, it was 22kg and they refused it so she had to lug it onto the train on her own. They are happy to allow a 70 year old to do this and aren't allowed to help as it breaches policy....

Go figure.

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And the same blokes probably go to the gym after work,,,, :mad:

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Originally Posted by rangieman

Yeah well it would not hurt you to do some exercise of some sort:banana::whistling::tease:
And lifting the smoke packet or lifting a drink is not classed as exercise Norm:Rolling:

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Umm,,, what are you trying to say dude,, Am I fat ? ;)
hehe,,, I see you've discovered my other nick name too :D

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

No such thing as tongue in cheek for that one. You are quite correct.
It has been determined that the poorest specimen of less than average fitness should be able to lift 25kg without injury. The benchmark has been set. If you lift over that and injure yourself, your fault mate. If you lift under that and injure yourself, that is a very very rare thing.
It's all about risk management.

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I understand all the work/management stuff,, but I still get ****ed off when I see big strong blokes take full advantage of the work situation. :mad: In my eyes, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone,, but thats just plain gutless.
The only consolation I get at work is when I see he has to transfer 40 x 25kg bags of powder from one pallet to another ;)

This sort of discussion always make sme think of when I visted flour mills in India.
These little blokes who would be lucky to be 50Kg wet, would lift 150Lb bags of flour onto their shoulders and back and walk up a 10x2 onto the back of a truck and do it all day.
I wonder how long they lived and how much food they had to eat to keep it up.

Regards Philip A

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

This sort of discussion always make sme think of when I visted flour mills in India.
These little blokes who would be lucky to be 50Kg wet, would lift 150Lb bags of flour onto their shoulders and back and walk up a 10x2 onto the back of a truck and do it all day.
I wonder how long they lived and how much food they had to eat to keep it up.

Regards Philip A

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In the days before bulk handling of raw sugar, wharfies in the North Qld. sugar ports used to carry 140 lb bags of sugar from the sheds to the sling. Often the bags weighed more than the wharfie. Cairns was known as "the long carry" because of the long jetty required to moor the ships in deep enough water. Pre WW2 the bags were 224 lbs and were definitely heavier than almost all of the blokes expected to carry them. The kindly stevedoring companies worked out that smaller bags meant one man less on a gang as two men were no longer required to lift a bag onto the back and shoulder of the carrier. An old Cairns wharfie told me that few of his colleagues enjoyed a long or a healthy retirement, usually broken in health or dead before retiring age.

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Originally Posted by Chops

Just wonering how many people here do weight lifting to keep fit, build up, whatever. But I also have some queries about it too.
We had a bit of a discussion today at work.
OH&S, says a guy cannot lift any more than 25kg. At this point, I'm assuming that this is pretty much Aus wide, and includes all work/jobs. (could be wrong about that though)

So what I'm wondering about, is if at work, you cant lift more than 25kg, how is it, you can go down to the gym and start cracking 50+kgs with weight lifting ?? :confused:

I went down to the gym last year to keep the girls company whilst they did their thing,, and I noticed all these guys coming in, looking pretty dirty, straight from work I guess, and straight onto various weight lifting devices.
Did'nt take much notice at the time, but by gees, its got me baffled now. Especially as one of our guys at work stands taller and broader than me, yet moves less product than the girls that work there :(,, although, as it was pointed out to me this arvo,,, at least he wont have a stuffed back,,

I understand keeping fit, and weight lifting is all supposed to be done correctly,, warm ups,, posture, technique etc, but lets just say you did some damage, and I mean serious damage,,, who pays?

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I am struggling to find your point. So, some one at work is not doing his share, because he has hurt himself in the gym. Or, are you jealous of the chap who makes you feel inferior, or you went to the gym, & noticed dirty workers coming in, to keep fit [ perhaps footballers in training? ] Are you saying that people should not go the gym, or are you saying those that do, are going to "rort the system " if they hurt themselves. I'm going with the jealously thing. Get over it. Bob

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Originally Posted by bob10

I am struggling to find your point. So, some one at work is not doing his share, because he has hurt himself in the gym. Or, are you jealous of the chap who makes you feel inferior, or you went to the gym, & noticed dirty workers coming in, to keep fit [ perhaps footballers in training? ] Are you saying that people should not go the gym, or are you saying those that do, are going to "rort the system " if they hurt themselves. I'm going with the jealously thing. Get over it. Bob

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How on earth did you take that from Chops's first post? Love to know what they're putting in the water up there...

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Originally Posted by bob10

I am struggling to find your point. So, some one at work is not doing his share, because he has hurt himself in the gym. Or, are you jealous of the chap who makes you feel inferior, or you went to the gym, & noticed dirty workers coming in, to keep fit [ perhaps footballers in training? ] Are you saying that people should not go the gym, or are you saying those that do, are going to "rort the system " if they hurt themselves. I'm going with the jealously thing. Get over it. Bob

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Bob,,, do us both a favour mate,, re-read my original post, then read all the other posts thereafter, then speak.

And just so your aware, I'm 51, probably considered to be reasonably fit for age :),,, and jelous of no one. ;)

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Originally Posted by Chops

Bob,,, do us both a favour mate,, re-read my original post, then read all the other posts thereafter, then speak.

And just so your aware, I'm 51, probably considered to be reasonably fit for age :),,, and jelous of no one. ;)

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Sorry mate but I read this


I went down to the gym last year to keep the girls company whilst they did their thing,, and I noticed all these guys coming in, looking pretty dirty, straight from work I guess, and straight onto various weight lifting devices.
Did'nt take much notice at the time, but by gees, its got me baffled now. Especially as one of our guys at work stands taller and broader than me, yet moves less product than the girls that work there :(,, although, as it was pointed out to me this arvo,,, at least he wont have a stuffed back,,

I understand keeping fit, and weight lifting is all supposed to be done correctly,, warm ups,, posture, technique etc, but lets just say you did some damage, and I mean serious damage,,, who pays?


And took it to say you were suggesting that some one who did some damage in that situation, would be asking for compensation, forgive me if I'm wrong, Bob [ Did not mean to upset you, and glad to hear you are jealous of no one, but have to tell you , as a good Queenslander., I am frightened of no one. ]