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    Stage 1 V8

    Hi all just wanting to know what to look out for when buying a stage 1 V8 as there has been 2 advertised over here in WA.

    Also how can you tell if it is a true stage 1 and not just a copy


    adam

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    Adam,
    I don't know much about these, but post some pics of the one you buy and any info you find out as well, as I'm interested in getting one in the near future as well !!

    Matt.

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    Re: Stage 1 V8

    Originally posted by agrojnr
    Hi all just wanting to know what to look out for when buying a stage 1 V8 as there has been 2 advertised over here in WA.

    Also how can you tell if it is a true stage 1 and not just a copy


    adam
    Don't know alot about the finer points of the Stage 1 but check out
    www.landroverclub.net
    They have a stage 1 register giong seems to be alot of info there [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Thanks medic have been there and got some info about chassis and engine numbers from there.

    Just wondering now more on the body and interior parts and so forth that I need to look for


    adam

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    What is it about the Stage 1 ?
    Are they collectable or something ?
    Was there a stage 2 ?
    Was there a difference?

    A brief explanation will suffice.
    Thank You.
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    Originally posted by VladTepes
    What is it about the Stage 1 ?
    Are they collectable or something ?
    Was there a stage 2 ?
    Was there a difference?

    A brief explanation will suffice.
    Thank You.
    Vlad old son I went down this road in the tech section a couple of months ago, so just for you, here we go again :roll: :roll:

    The story of the series 3 stage One V8, or the development of Landrovers from originalrover to son of series. The stage one was a development using the 109(well the bulk of them anyway)series 3 with a more powerfull engine and gear box (stright out of the Rangerover of the day)

    The V8 was chosen as it was the only engine that would fit without a major re-design of the drivetrain (saving the associated cost). The radiator was moved foward to accomidate the larger engine and the supporting chassis crossmember was also moved foward this gave the flush front (that we know so well in the Defender) the rest of the vehicle was pure series 3 109.

    What was fitted under the bonnet was not however, the 132bhp V8 from the Range Rover but a detuned low-compression 8.13:1 version with 91bhp at 3500rpm output (seems the export market at the time suffered from poor quality fuel and this is the only way they could get the V8 to run on low grade fuel) this engine was mated to the standard LT95 transmission, from the RR and 101 Foward control, the front axle is modified to handle the constant 4 wheel drive, the brakes are servo assisted(as in the same as the 6 cylinder Series 3)

    The Stage One had a production run lasting from mid 1979 untill 1985, came in most landrover variations and was exported all over the world, the NZ Army have several hundred.

    Stage One = the V8 series 3 109

    Stage Two = Factory redevelopment including onsite engine building

    Stage Three = Completion of factory modernisation and the release of the 110 and 90 models

    As a interesting little side bar, there were 6 Stage One V8 88" built, following the same process as the 109's how ever it was decided not to go ahead with their production as the expected demand was too light i

    My thanks to LRO International Magazine from who this information was gained (October 1999, October 2000 and May 2002 issues)









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    Vlad have brought the whole stage 1 thread to the top of the tech section .........if you want to read it



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    I thought they de-tuned the engine coz the brakes would'nt handle the power?????
    Also it should be easy to put rangie disc's on the stage 1 as they run rangie axle's????


    adam

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    Originally posted by medic455

    Happy Vlad....

    Yep. Thanks. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Hi Adam
    The chasis is different at the front to a ser3,the front xmember is closer to the front.The front diff is the same as a ser3,but has the rangie style CV's in the swivels.
    If you want to have a look at one and you can get down to Coolbelup(BibraLake way) in the next few days before he goes to Sidanee,you could have a look at my bro's Stage 1 van which is pretty original throught.
    Will send his mobile no if you are intertested.
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