That time of year again, Bledisloe

Soooo close...............and yet, so far away!

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

Wallabies up to the last few minutes ... or a few more, were asleep at the wheel.


Surprising penalty (or potential penalty) count don't you think ... ;-)


LOL!!!

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Surprising? Hmmmm. :D

Two in the bin for the Kiwis, but still only a draw. Was a good watch though.

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Originally Posted by sheerluck

Surprising? Hmmmm. :D

Two in the bin for the Kiwis, but still only a draw. Was a good watch though.

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Hey the Ref was getting better ..... it only took four ABs off-side at any given time and he was on them :p.


Maybe next time they'll get one that can count to 15 ....

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

Hey the Ref was getting better ..... it only took four ABs off-side at any given time and he was on them :p.


Maybe next time they'll get one that can count to 15 ....

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So what's the problem? The off-side rule is like the DRS system in cricket, you don't have to sign up to use it if you don't want to. Just that nobody told the Wallabies team in advance. :D

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Originally Posted by Hastykiwi

I don't know if your saying this from genuine belief, or just covering your bets if they lose. If they don't win tonight, I'm not sure what difference 12 months will make. They won't have significantly different talent to choose from.

Having said that, I fully endorse the comment re 2nd tier comp. This has been Aus' archilles heel for the last 20 years. For so long it has been musical chairs through out the S15 teams for the Wallaby incumbents, backed up by journymen.

Now there is an opportunity to create a pathway, with more branches than ever before, and to develop local talent. I hope it works. There are so many good kids playing, and no matter whther its in NZ or Aus, they all start the same, it what happens after that, that shapes them.

My one fear is that the new 2nd tier teams will ignore whats on thier doorstep, and raid NZ for talent to start their teams. It would be to both countries detriment.

Grab a beer, strap in, and good luck.

Nick

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You wouldn't know honesty if you tripped over it :p. There will be a huge difference in 12 months time, a few new faces, better combinations, More players given experience at the top level. The ARU had a one off championship in 2007, a financial disaster, and wasn't repeated, until this year. Players such as Like Burgess, Shawn Mackay, Matt hodgson, Ben Daley, David Pocock, Kurtley Beale, Josh Holmes, the Faingaa brothers were given the chance to show their wares . The fact that so many made their way to Test Rugby is the greatest recommendation for the new National Rugby Championship, which starts at Ballymore Thursday night, & goes for 11 weeks.


Some young players to watch;
Brisbane City
Sam Talakai [ prop with big wraps] Michael Gunn [ flanker] , Jake Mcintyre, Harry Parker


Qld Country
Lolo Fakaosilea, Campbell Magnay, Pierce Fitzgerald.


Brisbane City V Sydney Stars are on Fox 1 Thursday 7.30 pm.


BTW, all squads have been selected, and all players are resident Australians. This comp is to benefit Australian Rugby, not NZ.


The 11 week season will enable Brisbane City coach Nick Stiles & Qld. counterpart Steve Meehan to appraise aspiring club players & Reds Wider Training squad players in higher company besides perhaps 7 or 8 Reds in any game. The same applies to the other State Teams. In effect, it is a audition for the big time, to see who can handle all aspects of Super Rugby, from the demands of travel, consistent performances training, etc.


As for the first Bledisloe, with the amount of basic errors the Wallabies committed in the first quarter, previous teams would have been flogged. The fact they weren't , is a good sign for the future. Hooper has a lot to learn as Captain, and there's only one way he can do that. I hope Beale doesn't become McKenzies Cooper. Saturday night will tell, Bob

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Originally Posted by bob10

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You wouldn't know honesty if you tripped over it :p. There will be a huge difference in 12 months time, a few new faces, better combinations, More players given experience at the top level. The ARU had a one off championship in 2007, a financial disaster, and wasn't repeated, until this year. Players such as Like Burgess, Shawn Mackay, Matt hodgson, Ben Daley, David Pocock, Kurtley Beale, Josh Holmes, the Faingaa brothers were given the chance to show their wares . The fact that so many made their way to Test Rugby is the greatest recommendation for the new National Rugby Championship, which starts at Ballymore Thursday night, & goes for 11 weeks.


Some young players to watch;
Brisbane City
Sam Talakai [ prop with big wraps] Michael Gunn [ flanker] , Jake Mcintyre, Harry Parker


Qld Country
Lolo Fakaosilea, Campbell Magnay, Pierce Fitzgerald.


Brisbane City V Sydney Stars are on Fox 1 Thursday 7.30 pm.


BTW, all squads have been selected, and all players are resident Australians. This comp is to benefit Australian Rugby, not NZ.


The 11 week season will enable Brisbane City coach Nick Stiles & Qld. counterpart Steve Meehan to appraise aspiring club players & Reds Wider Training squad players in higher company besides perhaps 7 or 8 Reds in any game. The same applies to the other State Teams. In effect, it is a audition for the big time, to see who can handle all aspects of Super Rugby, from the demands of travel, consistent performances training, etc.


As for the first Bledisloe, with the amount of basic errors the Wallabies committed in the first quarter, previous teams would have been flogged. The fact they weren't , is a good sign for the future. Hooper has a lot to learn as Captain, and there's only one way he can do that. I hope Beale doesn't become McKenzies Cooper. Saturday night will tell, Bob

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Really? Be careful, your wanky emoticons don't minimise the intent of what you type.

Did you actually read my post. I never said it was to benefit NZ. I used the word detriment. You do know what that means don't you?

I hope the 2nd tier comp helps, however my fear is that NZ NPC level players will be pulled in to fill the lack of depth here. Now, you've said EVERY player is an AUs resident. Have you verified this? If its something you have just requoted, then surely you must realise this doesn't actually exclude a NZer, as all NZ'ers who arrive here are Aus residents for tax purposes.

Personally I hope you are right. There are a heap of kids running around every weekend that will be of benefit to Aus rugby, but I worry that the administrators will want quick success, and take the easy option.

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Originally Posted by Hastykiwi

Really? Be careful, your wanky emoticons don't minimise the intent of what you type.

Did you actually read my post. I never said it was to benefit NZ. I used the word detriment. You do know what that means don't you?

I hope the 2nd tier comp helps, however my fear is that NZ NPC level players will be pulled in to fill the lack of depth here. Now, you've said EVERY player is an AUs resident. Have you verified this? If its something you have just requited, then surely you must realise doesn't actually exclude a NZer, as all NZ'ers who arrive here are Aus residents for tax purposes.

Personally I hope you are right. There are a heap of kids running around every weekend that will be of benefit to Aus rugby, but I worry that the administrators will want quick success, and take the easy option.

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Be careful? Is that a threat? Don't. Your sense of humour needs work. I am right. You are wrong. And NZ NPC players are not wanted here, Not needed in this comp.. I'll say again, this new competition is for the advancement of Australian Rugby. No player eligible for NZ is needed, or wanted. So, get this straight, WE DON"T NEED YOU . Can't make it any clearer than that. Yes, we have islanders in our side, the same as NZ has Samoans , Fijians, Tongans, in theirs. You send yours back, We'll send ours. [ just kidding] Bob

No it was not a threat, more you just need to watch how far you push your grandstanding.

Honestly Bob. Do you bother to read the posts. WHERE have I said that Aus need NZ players? Where?

I have been pointing out, obviously completely obliviously to your limited comprehension, that Aus should NOT pick overseas players for this comp. My point, that completely escapes you as usual, is that I fear they will for short term gains.

WA 5 kiwis
Brisbane 2 Samoans, 3 canadians, 1PPNG, 1 Saffa etc.

But you just carry on with your little rant, ignoring what people actually write, and bring on the confused diatribe you call logic.

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Originally Posted by sheerluck

So what's the problem? The off-side rule is like the DRS system in cricket, you don't have to sign up to use it if you don't want to. Just that nobody told the Wallabies team in advance. :D

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Wish I knew what that meant ... Then I'd know if you were taking the **** out of me .... LOL!!! I don't follow cricket :-(

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Originally Posted by Hastykiwi

No it was not a threat, more you just need to watch how far you push your grandstanding.

Honestly Bob. Do you bother to read the posts. WHERE have I said that Aus need NZ players? Where?

I have been pointing out, obviously completely obliviously to your limited comprehension, that Aus should NOT pick overseas players for this comp. My point, that completely escapes you as usual, is that I fear they will for short term gains.

WA 5 kiwis
Brisbane 2 Samoans, 3 canadians, 1PPNG, 1 Saffa etc.

But you just carry on with your little rant, ignoring what people actually write, and bring on the confused diatribe you call logic.

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I recon you guys would get on great in real life. I imagine a scene from a movie where two guys, usually cranky old guys (sorry) pick at each other all the time but would kill to defend each other.

:-)