Oh ps it's perfectly safe if it's in a sheet product, unbroken & painted so the fibres cannot get airborne...
Well maybe not perfectly safe but minimal risk....
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Oh ps it's perfectly safe if it's in a sheet product, unbroken & painted so the fibres cannot get airborne...
Well maybe not perfectly safe but minimal risk....
Yep,like I said you'd think it would kill you on sight. PatQuote:
Originally Posted by Meken
Well..... I can cheerfully say I've never **** myself after putting a holesaw through the ceiling in an older house while installing smoke detectors and discovering the plug of material left in the holesaw had the telltale heavily dimpled texture of asbestos sheet....
It is insidious stuff. You think it is ridiculous, until it gets you or someone close.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
A bit like the activity of Rolf and others. It hits you years later. The damage was done at the time.
Which would you prefer, being slowly strangled to death in front of your family for years, or being killed at work by a major gas leak? :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
Watched my mates grandfather who used to look after us as kids go from healthy mobile retired electrician , to being barely able to breathe. He used to work with the stuff in a power station.
Asbestos producers, and hardie knew from the 1950's that it was a toxic product, that's why the factory in sydney was known as the old mans factory. They had a policy of employing only older workers over 45 as the effects took in most cases 20-30 years, they could blame it on age.
The problem is some people react quicker than others, so you may be fine for 30+ years after drilling or cutting the stuff out of a power board, or roof cavity, but the child who walks through that dust could be hit by it in 5 to 20 years or as has happened in many cases your wife doing the washing could inhale the dust putting your gear in the wash.
As to " we used to use it" we also used to use DDT to weed, people used to use mercury as a medicine and women used to use ground up lead as part of their make up. ;)
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Originally Posted by frantic
My first job was as a junior hardware assistant in a general store in the southwest of WA, one of the jobs I had was helping unload asbestos sheeting from our truck (picked up from the goods rail) and sliding them into the racks, sheet by sheet, in 5 ton loads, in those days (late 50's) it was a normal thig to do.
I worked there for around 3 years.
The next job I had in Perth was similar but not as much exposure to asbestos. However I did numerous trips to James Hardie in Welshpool WA to pickup asbestos.
Following that, throughout my life until I became aware of the dangers
(around the 70's), I had some exposure through fences and some minimal house renovation.
3 years ago due to some throat and upper lung problems I visited the doctors and Xrays showed a thickening of the Bronchial tubes which may have been a precursor to Mesathelomia (think thats how it is spelt), so a visit to a lawyer who sent me to a specialist in those instances a further Xray revealed that I was clear.
I now believe my condition is genetic as my mother and sisters had/have bronchial problems.
Mesathelomia is a disease that when you become aware of it, it is too late
I am glad I gave up smoking over 40 years ago
If asbestos is so dangerous why don't we have people dying in major cities from inhaling all the asbestos dust from all the cars driving around?,three years ago a test in Perth still found it floating around,you don't see all the street traders dying off,funny thing about it is people jump up and down about it yet quite happily smoke. Pat
I recall many homes being built in the UK after the war with asbestos sheeting for the walls and corrugated sheets for the roof. Totally inert if it was painted which it was and no scare mongering about it 40 years ago.
But since then I met a bloke while on a cruise who had mesothelioma and had to drag his battery powered oxygen pump around with him. He had been a fitter in the RN and lagged pipes with asbestos and I doubt if he's alive now.
And when I was at work, around 8 years ago a lady there, a fit full of life person suddenly fell ill and died......cause was determined to have been asbestos in her lungs from washing her husbands overalls.
Horrible stuff and the sickness it causes has been known since around the late 1940s I believe.
AlanH.