Whincup Breaks Peter Brock's Pole Position Record

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Originally Posted by Redback

Persnally I think Colin Bond, Jim Richards were better drivers than Brock.

GO THE VOLVO

WELL GO MCLAUGHLIN, great young driver.

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Yep well said,i am well and truly behind GRM Volvo and young Scotty. I hope once Dahlgren gets his head around the cars and tracks he can be more effective next year.

I tried watching the V8's,it's just not worth the time.The cars are dull and all look the same,the drivers don't really doing any balls out move's,they just play follow the leader for 99% of the time.Supercars are just a shadow of the 70's and 80's. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I tried watching the V8's,it's just not worth the time.The cars are dull and all look the same,the drivers don't really doing any balls out move's,they just play follow the leader for 99% of the time.Supercars are just a shadow of the 70's and 80's. Pat

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You obviously didn't watch any of the racing at the weekend, including a couple of the most "balls out moves" in the wet, by the Giz that I've ever seen.
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I tried watching the V8's,it's just not worth the time.The cars are dull and all look the same,the drivers don't really doing any balls out move's,they just play follow the leader for 99% of the time.Supercars are just a shadow of the 70's and 80's. Pat

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Thoroughly agree there is no brand loyalty anymore it's all about the dollars

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Originally Posted by Outback 1

Thoroughly agree there is no brand loyalty anymore it's all about the dollars

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**** brand loyalty, they're racing drivers, you try and get the best drive.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I tried watching the V8's,it's just not worth the time.The cars are dull and all look the same,the drivers don't really doing any balls out move's,they just play follow the leader for 99% of the time.Supercars are just a shadow of the 70's and 80's. Pat

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Pat, it's really hard to pass when everyone is so even and you are relying on aero (albeit a minuscule amount) for grip.

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Originally Posted by rick130

**** brand loyalty, they're racing drivers, you try and get the best drive.

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back in the 70s and 80s which we were referring to you always new who drove which make and even the good old privateer had o shot now its just poverty pack f1

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Originally Posted by disco man

All good info there mate,i am aware of what your saying and i am not trying to take anything away from Brock.IMO Brock's record is far more impressive than Whincup's,i might upset a few people by saying this but the fact is Brock was up against far better drivers than Whincup which makes his record far more special.

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You are right, there were a lot of better drivers in the old days. However maybe today the drivers all have better cars. In the 70 / 80s there were huge differences with budgets and cars.
Also cant remember what year it was but Brock raced in Europe and missed 2 rounds of the ATCC championship effectively giving the championship to Dick Johnson I think and removing the chance of another 2 poles.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

You are right, there were a lot of better drivers in the old days. However maybe today the drivers all have better cars. In the 70 / 80s there were huge differences with budgets and cars.
Also cant remember what year it was but Brock raced in Europe and missed 2 rounds of the ATCC championship effectively giving the championship to Dick Johnson I think and removing the chance of another 2 poles.

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Yeah i am not sure of the year either,but i think it's when him and Moffet took a VK? to Spa in Belgium,and the Wellington 500.

Imagine if the boys back in the day had the cars the guys use in TCM racing,some bloody nice machines in there:D

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Originally Posted by Outback 1

back in the 70s and 80s which we were referring to you always new who drove which make and even the good old privateer had o shot now its just poverty pack f1

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There's only ever been one Brand loyal driver I remember and that was Larry Perkins, most of the drivers from back then went for the best and fastest car, look at Brock, Longhurst, Bartlett, Jim Richards, Colin Bond, I started going to Bathurst in the early 70s, bikes and cars, Amaroo, Oran Park, never missed the racing on TV.

The reason for all the overtaking back then, was not about the driver(although it helped) it was the car, so many privateer teams with not a lot of cash, so any time a good drive came up, the driver would go there, not any different now IMO.

With the parody, it's all about the driver and the team who set the car up.

I do agree that the cars look pretty much the same and at times it can be a boring single line race, but not all the time, and now that the teams other than Holden and Ford are back, it should end up a good series, I quite enjoyed the weekends racing, especially Saturday.

Baz.