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    The Chilean Schindlers list

    Makes you realise how lucky we are , living here, Bob


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Yes Bob, and the Australian people have to read more about the dark decades in South America so it will never be allowed to happen here.
    Back in the 50's we in my mother country never think that things like this can happen but did
    Australia now it is so close to what was Uruguay in the 50's that it is not funny.
    The introduced laws in Qld and proposed in Tasmania are an example and not to mention the one proposed at federal level. All of them are far "to open" and can be used for many purposes.
    The intention od separation of classes and also the "Team Australia" is another complement to the above proposed laws.

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    You know my impressions of Modern Chile are that they still have problems with communist ? or leftist agitation which really seems to affect everyday life.
    In the short time I was there I witnessed university student demonstrations that disrupted traffic but didn't seem to be put down harshly by the authorities.

    The buildings in the old city of Santiago all have shutters that are closed every night . The Student quarter is covered in graffiti and looks down.

    I witnessed a march outside our hotel and leading to the Plaza Des Armes which shut down the city centre by miners from the North agitating for a pay rise. The police did not appear to disrupt it.

    There are lots of police around in central Santiago and as a result you can walk around at night safely, and there is night entertainment in Plaza des Armes .
    I sometimes wonder whether the left aggrandise communists and nihilists who are intent on destroying institutions. There is no excuse for disappearing people but to claim that all these were saints and had not done any wrong is just fantasy.
    That is my observation.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
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    I sometimes wonder whether the left aggrandise communists and nihilists who are intent on destroying institutions. There is no excuse for disappearing people but to claim that all these were saints and had not done any wrong is just fantasy.
    That is my observation.

    Regards Philip A
    As an offensive as if someone say that the Gypsies or Jewish who died during the prosecution by the Nazis were not good people.
    I cannot find words to describe your position about this issue, it is repulsive to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    You know my impressions of Modern Chile are that they still have problems with communist ? or leftist agitation which really seems to affect everyday life.
    In the short time I was there I witnessed university student demonstrations that disrupted traffic but didn't seem to be put down harshly by the authorities.

    The buildings in the old city of Santiago all have shutters that are closed every night . The Student quarter is covered in graffiti and looks down.

    I witnessed a march outside our hotel and leading to the Plaza Des Armes which shut down the city centre by miners from the North agitating for a pay rise. The police did not appear to disrupt it.

    There are lots of police around in central Santiago and as a result you can walk around at night safely, and there is night entertainment in Plaza des Armes .
    I sometimes wonder whether the left aggrandise communists and nihilists who are intent on destroying institutions. There is no excuse for disappearing people but to claim that all these were saints and had not done any wrong is just fantasy.
    That is my observation.
    Regards Philip A

    Did you go into the country, & talk to The people? And who said they were all saints? Only you. Your observation is fatally flawed. Bob


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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    On Sept. 7, the FPMR attempted to assassinate Pinochet as he was
    driven to Santiago from his country retreat. He escaped unharmed when his
    driver sped from the scene in reverse. Five bodyguards were killed and 12 were
    wounded. In retaliation, security agents abducted four communists from their
    homes and killed them. More than 50 leftists were arrested. The government
    declared a state of siege.
    As I said not angels.
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    Throughout his later years, Pinochet retained loyal supporters, who credited
    his government with instituting a fiscal discipline that helped make Chile's
    economy the region's strongest. But he lost many of those backers after
    multiple probes in recent years revealed financial corruption, including the
    discovery of millions of dollars in state funds held in numerous secret
    overseas accounts, among them several at the former Riggs Bank in Washington.
    As recently as October, Chilean investigators announced the discovery of 10
    tons of gold, worth an estimated $160 million, in Pinochet's name in a Hong
    Kong bank.
    And several of the people I did speak to still regard him as the reason for Chile's relative success compared to other South American countries. Its a bit hard to speak to too many people in Chile as it the most "Spanish" monolingual country I have ever visited, including Spain., and I don't speak Spanish.
    Regards Philip A

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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    And several of the people I did speak to still regard him as the reason for Chile's relative success compared to other South American countries. Its a bit hard to speak to too many people in Chile as it the most "Spanish" monolingual country I have ever visited, including Spain., and I don't speak Spanish.
    Regards Philip A
    Yes, there are also evil and scam low life people that speak good of Hitler, Gaddafi, Idi Amin, etc .
    It is a result of ignorance or a fascist ideology which it is not hold high regards by those that appreciate human life and values.

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    Chucaro, you know that comments like that to the 'reasonable man" would imply that I am in that category.
    When you play the man rather than the issue you have already lost the debate.
    There is very little commonality between Pinochet and Hitler, seeing Pinochet stayed on in the government and loosened up after the communist purge.
    Lets remember that you are proposing that somehow Australia is becoming like Chile. Well Chile is now probably the most economically successful country in South America, and the middle class people I spoke to seem to consider this as overall a good thing. You know pensions can be paid, police forces paid for etc, there are not riots anymore . Chile also exports lots of stuff to the USA .That sort of stuff.

    I am reminded of many immigrants who come to Australia from places like Italy and Greece, and remember conditions when they left, not realising that those countries are now completely different from when they left.

    Let's consider why the government is reducing civil liberties in Australia. Something about ISIS I believe. Maybe it is preferable under "loss of cvil Liberties" to have cells of terrorists exist undiscovered until a Suicide Bomber blows himself up in Sydney Town hall Station.

    Regards Philip A

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