They'd like to kill us

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Originally Posted by olbod

Chose my words badly didn't I.
I dont have a problem with Moslems or Islam on the whole.
Live and let live.
But there are ******* within the Moslem community that dont see it that way. They are called terrorist or terrorist sympathisers.
They are the ones I would like to see weeded out and dealt with.
If you cant deal with that, Stiff.

If you want this to become personal, let me say that I could only be bitten by someone that I respect.
Guess what !!!

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I was just trying to be a bit funny.

in short,
jews believe that they are descendants of abraham through birth.
christians believe they become descendants of abraham though faith
islam doesnt care. abraham was just another prophet.

What saddens me the most is that it does not have to be this way.
I would have loved to visit places in the middle east.
They have a fantastic history and places and sites steeped in history and the civilised world would love to visit unmolested. I have books and doco's about the middle east that to me are fascinating. From when I was a kid reading Ali Baba and stuff I read as much as I could also Israel and the biblical sites.
I have most of the Leon Uris books but alas I will never get there as I dont have a death wish. I console myself by saying I am to old anyway.
Egypt was the go for a while on the tourist circuit but you would take your life in your hand now I think if you were stupid enough.
I think Turkey at the moment is the only Moslem country that appears to be civilised and welcoming.
Hell there are area's in Sydney that are becoming no go zones for non Moslems.
Not that I would ever visit Sydney again for any reason.

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Originally Posted by korg20000bc

I was just trying to be a bit funny.

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Okay, Sorry.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

The problem is actually weeding out the extremists and militants.

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We must remember that ALL Muslims are not terrorists......BUT, virtually ALL terrorists are Muslims.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

IMHO we cannot categorize the extremists and terrorists groups as Muslims.
The Muslims saying loud and clear that what these groups are doing and promoting does not have nothing to do with the Muslim beliefs or are in the Koran for that matter.
If we keep blaming the Muslim instead of these groups we will create a big division in our society including violence and civilian unrest.
The winners will be these groups of extremists including the Nazi-Fascists Australian groups that saying that they will bomb the Mosques.
We have to be very careful to not allow that one or two thousand low life people in Australia ruin our way of life.

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Gday Chucaro,


The problem is that we haven't heard or seen any muslims condoning this behaviour. I am not saying they haven't , but , in the media I have seen or listened to all I have heard is that the authorities have over reacted and its not as it seems.


You cannot blame the average person for reacting against this faith as we have seen the PM, the Feds, ASIO, even the local cops come out and say its not racial or religious persecution, but the only responses from the Islamic community seems to be denial.


I am happy to be proven wrong, but we in Darwin haven't seen any denouncing from the faithful. I hope we don't see it esculate into another chronulla episode.


Cheers Ean


Cheers Ean

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Originally Posted by Eevo

actually its been around since the days of abraham.
which is around 2000bc

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Muhammad 600 AD

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Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Gday Chucaro,


The problem is that we haven't heard or seen any muslims condoning this behaviour. I am not saying they haven't , but , in the media I have seen or listened to all I have heard is that the authorities have over reacted and its not as it seems.


You cannot blame the average person for reacting against this faith as we have seen the PM, the Feds, ASIO, even the local cops come out and say its not racial or religious persecution, but the only responses from the Islamic community seems to be denial.


I am happy to be proven wrong, but we in Darwin haven't seen any denouncing from the faithful. I hope we don't see it esculate into another chronulla episode.


Cheers Ean


Cheers Ean

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Hello Ean, today in ABC 24 was a media conference where there were journalists form many different media organizations.
The Muslim representatives expressed very clear their position.
Sadly I cannot find in the media sites in the web any reference about the meeting :(
It seems to me that if the news are good, there are not new.
Ean, what I am trying to do and wishing is for us not to act in a manner that will be produce division with in Australia. That it is what the radicals want.
We have to act smart and with calm and not accuse any individual or organization if we do not know the facts.

cheers

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Originally Posted by Eevo

actually its been around since the days of abraham.
which is around 2000bc

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better do your research, my friend.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

Hello Ean, today in ABC 24 was a media conference where there were journalists form many different media organizations.
The Muslim representatives expressed very clear their position.
Sadly I cannot find in the media sites in the web any reference about the meeting :(
It seems to me that if the news are good, there are not new.
Ean, what I am trying to do and wishing is for us not to act in a manner that will be produce division with in Australia. That it is what the radicals want.
We have to act smart and with calm and not accuse any individual or organization if we do not know the facts.

cheers

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I agree 100% with what you are trying to do. I don't care where anyone is from or what their religion is, as long as they live by the rules that we all have to live by and they don't force their religious/political views on those that don't want to hear them then welcome and enjoy this great country for what it is , of they can't do that then move on to somewhere else.

Cheers Ean