Please take Note!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vnx205

So if someone rings you to ask for help you will refuse because you have been charged either for the mobile phone or for the landline. :p

---

my time and knowledge is worth money. thats why my boss pays me, cause i have particular knowledge that he wants.

so to answer your question, it depends on who's calling me.
generally im happy to help a stranger as long as this privilege isnt abused (or i have to pay for it).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eevo

i'm feeling argumentative so i'll make this post.



no one is doubting that this site is good for information.

fixes, upgrades, what's to buy, etc.



however we must remember where that information came from.

it came from users. you and i (maybe not so much me)

we gave that information freely. we didnt expect anything in return for our help. it was a two way street.



we're now been charged for give this information. we're being charged to help each other.

---

When are you NOT being argumentative... :D

If you want to really put it in context; a limited few shared a huge amount of knowledge using this infrastructure so that many may gain assistance.

Some of us even did fund raisers to fund improvements to the infrastructure because what Dave is providing is such a valuable asset.

To complain that a resource this good is rude to then ask for support to maintain the rack space and server plus the huge data flow including the often pointless drivel posted by certain individuals; when that cost is so cheap - is just ridiculous.

Why should Dave wear the brunt of the cost so you have somewhere to come and talk crap?

Selfish... Seriously selfish.

Dave - contact me - I'm interested in making a donation to the running of the site.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by V8Ian

As a non-subscriber, financially you'll not be missed. Discount your negative and contentious posts, how much LR information have you disseminated? Would you be missed for your depth of knowledge?

---

probably not. i would be the same as 99% of users.

if you're unhappy with my negative and contentious posts, please see a psychiatrist.

please note, the psychiatrist will probably charge you for their help.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eevo

im not providing an alternative.

im telling you a user paid forums is not the answer.

---

Really - the model is working fine at Ausfish...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tombie

When are you NOT being argumentative... :D

---

when im not posting :p

Other forums have their main chat section strictly about 4wd topics. I think that General Chat should really be turned into General 4wd Chat. Most other forums have an Off topic section usually way down the menu for those subjects not related to 4wding and car brands in particular. I rarely go to the off topic sections of other sites as the general 4wd chat sections are usually quite interesting and non controversial. If the off topic posts are mixed in with the on topic posts then you do get sucked into reading them and replying because everyone else is just wrong and you have to tell them.

Hiding the menu items does work. For instance, I haven't read any computer or gps threads since they were moved off the direct menu. I couldn't be bothered unless I want to ask a question.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tombie

Really - the model is working fine at Ausfish...

---

well done to them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eevo

inc is referring to me and my work computer which has adblocker installed.

---

I realize that, I was just pointing out that theres that much advertising around, that most people don't even bother looking at it. For me it's just part of the background colours

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by vnx205

My reading of the changes is that it isn't a full user pays.

Regular User
System moves you to this access level after 3 months
Cost = $0 You have limited access to systems features
No Access to the Personal Message System
No Signature
No Access to Extra features

---

Granted its not a full user pays system, but if you want to have the same basic function as what's currently free then your paying.

okay

PLEASE lets stop with the personal barbs...

some will accept it and some will not

i have anticipated the fact that i have no control over who will and who won't

the place isn't every bodies cup of tea and never will be ...

it will have to live or die on its feet.

we that are interested can only do what we can.

thank you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by incisor

okay

PLEASE lets stop with the personal barbs...

some will accept it and some will not

i have anticipated the fact that i have no control over who will and who won't

the place isn't every bodies cup of tea and never will be ...

it will have to live or die on its feet.

we that are interested can only do what we can.

thank you.

---

You have my full support Dave...