Thread: Why Your Power Bill Still Hurts.

Hose them down with $2.00 of water to generate $0.12 of electricity

Originally Posted by Ferret

In the category of name calling and personal abuse I guess you would have to include terms scattered among the articles published on the StopThesesThings web site such as 'greentard', 'twitter twit', 'keyboard coward', 'articulate moron', 'ecofascist', 'wind weasel' and the like. Seems like they can dish it out with the best of them.

I wonder if this weakens their arguments?

Agreed there is also name calling among comments by those who administer www.stopthesethings.com However these are not often in the articles exposing what is wrong with wind power they are commenting on.
Re title of this thread, "Why your power bill still hurts", a significant reason contributing to this is cost of subsidies to renewables. Fair enough to get them started. However, unfortunately wind for generating power directly into mains has proven has proven to need continued subsidies as well as it causing significant environmental problems. . Those with large investments in the industry want them continued. Consumers ultimately pay for it. Note how Germany, Denmark and South Australia with a lot of wind turbines have the highest electricity prices in the world. These cause problems including more people behind in payments being disconnected and the cost of each so called "Green job" destroying two or more real jobs from eg industries closing down or moving away.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

To save money with solar its important to minimise power consumption during the day and defer as much as possible usage until after 8pm. That way you're getting the full solar credit and using as little as possible during the day. In our house only the two fridges and fish tank pump are on in daylight hours. We do our washing after 8pm. Also, solar works best at about 25 degrees and when the panels are clean so hose them down regularly, including around midday on hot days. Makes a big difference to the bill.

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I think you have that back the front mick! Yes if your on a premium feed in tarrif, but now at 8c feed in, you need to load shift to the day time and use your appliances whilst the sun is shining.

Yes, that's true, we are still on the premium tariff so it works for us, but each to his own situation.

Some friends have recently sold a small house on a rural property which was fully solar powered and worked just fine for them. They sold to move into town.

Originally Posted by mox

Agreed there is also name calling among comments by those who administer www.stopthesethings.com However these are not often in the articles exposing what is wrong with wind power they are commenting on.
Re title of this thread, "Why your power bill still hurts", a significant reason contributing to this is cost of subsidies to renewables. Fair enough to get them started. However, unfortunately wind for generating power directly into mains has proven has proven to need continued subsidies as well as it causing significant environmental problems. . Those with large investments in the industry want them continued. Consumers ultimately pay for it. Note how Germany, Denmark and South Australia with a lot of wind turbines have the highest electricity prices in the world. These cause problems including more people behind in payments being disconnected and the cost of each so called "Green job" destroying two or more real jobs from eg industries closing down or moving away.

SA's electricity prices aren't high due to wind energy (wholesale wind energy is almost free), they are due to some extremely rich mongrel living in Singapore skimming 30% off each and every bill straight into his bank accounts. That's privatisation for you.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

SA's electricity prices aren't high due to wind energy (wholesale wind energy is almost free), they are due to some extremely rich mongrel living in Singapore skimming 30% off each and every bill straight into his bank accounts. That's privatisation for you.

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Yeah, we will see a lot more of this as the country's assets are flogged off.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

To save money with solar its important to minimise power consumption during the day and defer as much as possible usage until after 8pm. That way you're getting the full solar credit and using as little as possible during the day. In our house only the two fridges and fish tank pump are on in daylight hours. We do our washing after 8pm. Also, solar works best at about 25 degrees and when the panels are clean so hose them down regularly, including around midday on hot days. Makes a big difference to the bill.

I think that depends upon what sort of solar plan you are on and what sort of metering you have, e.g., Time Of Use. I'm not on TOU.

I'm on a Gross FIT, not Nett, so as far as I can see, it makes no difference when I use power. I'm also being paid 60c/kWh for my solar generation.