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    I have been watching the progress of spray on solar paint over the last year or so. It covers the entire roof but they have a long way to go before it can be offered as an alternative to solar roof panels. It is only 11% efficient at the moment (but they are making progress) and does not last as long as conventional panels.

    Anyrate have a read and gives us your thoughts!!!!

    Spray-On Solar May Be Cheaper And More Eco-Friendly Than The Panels On Your Roof | Co.Exist | ideas + impact

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    It does not matter what form of alternative energy we want to use.

    It has a footprint.

    Every system requires hardware and software.

    As alternate systems develop they also perpetuate their existence.

    Currently old school power generating provide the baseline to our needs and to produce the Renewable energy systems via a dirty fuel.

    Once the renewables provide for the renewables then the systems become cleaner and possibly more economical .

    I have said this before , but when Nicola Tesla introduced AC electricity to the world , it rocked the very foundations of industry and finance because the whole world was gearing up for DC generation.

    Companies collapsed, financiers went broke , but it went ahead.....I believe to the cost of Tesla's life.

    It will happen again , to the better of everyone.

    Already major financial institutions and financiers are dropping fossil fuel in favour of renewable energy systems .

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    This could be it .
    https://cosmosmagazine.com/technolog...ing-new-ground

    If Lockheed is successful, solar and wind will whither to nothing and all the green companies will fail as will all of the coal generators.

    Imagine a world with clean virtually unlimited power.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    This could be it .
    https://cosmosmagazine.com/technolog...ing-new-ground

    If Lockheed is successful, solar and wind will whither to nothing and all the green companies will fail as will all of the coal generators.

    Imagine a world with clean virtually unlimited power.
    Regards Philip A
    Exciting times ahead if it gets off the ground...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    hahahahaha!
    thats hilarious.
    and here it is, i imagine the nearby KFC has gone bust

    The World's Largest Solar Energy Plant Is Also a Massive Death Ray for Birds - The Wire

    I wonder if the $1.6 Bn or any subsidy to business is better spent in long term pure research, which is then utilized when a competitive solution solution is found.
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    Silicon Production

    Solar panels are made of Silicon, Silicon is made from Quartz bearing rock, HUGE amounts of electricity (why most Silicon plants are placed close to a Power Station) millions of tonnes of Charcoal.
    1 Tonne of Charcoal requires at least 7 tonne of wood, BHP had a plan to use charcoal as a flux, they would have required 9 million tonnes of Charcoal/year.
    So mining Quartz, Power Station supply for Electric Arc smelters and millions of tonnes of trees, not counting emissions from all of this, which is horrendous, Solar Panels have a high cost to the environment and they don't work at night, (see "Charcoalition" Google it), Regards Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    This could be it .
    https://cosmosmagazine.com/technolog...ing-new-ground

    If Lockheed is successful, solar and wind will whither to nothing and all the green companies will fail as will all of the coal generators.

    Imagine a world with clean virtually unlimited power.
    Regards Philip A
    Fusion reaction has been of interest since the 1920s with the first successful man-made fusion device developed in the 1950s. Development has continued ever since but we are apparently still a long way from commercial power generation. Probably of more interest is Gen IV nuclear fission reactors (see Generation IV reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Generation IV Nuclear Reactors: WNA ) which really will solve the world's energy requirements. We certainly don't want the reactors that our Foreign Minister is alluding to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Solar panels are made of Silicon, Silicon is made from Quartz bearing rock, HUGE amounts of electricity (why most Silicon plants are placed close to a Power Station) millions of tonnes of Charcoal.
    1 Tonne of Charcoal requires at least 7 tonne of wood, BHP had a plan to use charcoal as a flux, they would have required 9 million tonnes of Charcoal/year.
    So mining Quartz, Power Station supply for Electric Arc smelters and millions of tonnes of trees, not counting emissions from all of this, which is horrendous, Solar Panels have a high cost to the environment and they don't work at night, (see "Charcoalition" Google it), Regards Frank.
    Ah, but its not in our backyard, or roof therefore it's Green
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    I recall that when the first cars hit the roads skeptics said they would never replace horses. How many of us now ride horses?

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