Bullbars, LED's & ADR's

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Originally Posted by ATH

No driver in WA seems to worry about ADRs or any other reg as the cops only police mostly minor speeding offences. They have the occasional blitz on other offences but nothing lasts as it's too much like work.
Most offences are described as "discretionary" and it's up to the cop as to whether he can be bothered getting out of his car and issuing a ticket.
Even their in car computer number plate recognition system has had to be turned off as it's been totally over whelmed as there's so many vehicles now unregistered due to the Govs stupid efforts to save money by not issuing rego stickers.
The money they apparently save is a mere pittance compared to what they waste every hour of the day.
Go ahead and stick your LEDs or other dazzlers where you like.....I rarely drive at night so couldn't care less.:p
AlanH.

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I SO wish the NSW Police were like this...

... they only seem to Police ONE rule... SPEEDING! Speed Kills! (NO, incompetent drivers kill!!!)

I have lost count of how many tailgaters I watch here... in my rear view mirror and all around me... and how many front to rear pranged vehicles I see on the back of recovery vehicles. Yet I have never seen or heard of ONE motorist pulled over and fined for tailgating!!!

Speed policing... it's just revenue raising gone mad!!!

Turn the radar on, go to sleep, when it beeps, pull the bloke over. Congratulations on a job well done officer! :p

In Victoria LED light bars are now legal, they are required to either be fitted in pairs or in only one fitted it must centrally located.

This exert taken from the Vicroads website.

LED light bars are becoming an increasingly common aftermarket accessory fitment and are often mounted vehicle roofs or bull bars.
LED light bars are fitted to the front of vehicles to better illuminate the road in front of the vehicle. They act as a supplement to the vehicle's main beam (high beam) lamps.
Under the requirements of Australia Design Rule (ADR) 13/00, additional lamps must be fitted in pairs in accordance with the requirements for driving lamps.
However, the Commonwealth has commenced issuing approvals for the certification of new vehicles fitted with LED light bars that are not fitted in pairs in order to respond to this new technology.
In addition, an amendment to Australian Design Rule 13/00 is expected to be published in January 2015 which will formally clarify these arrangements.
Certain constraints remain on the fitment of LED light bars. These include that the LED light bars must be fitted symmetrically to the vehicle and must not exceed a total of four lamps.
As Victoria's in-service vehicle standards mirror the Australian Design Rule requirements this decision means that LED light bars can be fitted to vehicles in Victoria. Constraints remain on the fitment of LED light bars, so any LED light bar that is fitted must be installed in alignment with the following requirements:

• The lamps should, as far as is possible, be installed symmetrically in pairs to the front of the vehicle.
• If lamps are not fitted as pairs (e.g. one, three etc), they must be fitted to the front of the vehicle, symmetrically about the centre.
• A maximum of four driving lamps (including LED light bars) can be fitted to a vehicle in addition to the vehicle's main beam headlamps.
• The lamp/s must be installed in a way that the light produced does not cause the driver of the vehicle discomfort either directly or by reflection.
• The lamp/s must only come on when the main-beam (high beam) headlamps are used, and must automatically turn off when the main-beam headlamps are turned off.
• The lamps must not obstruct the driver's view of the road.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

• The lamps must not obstruct the driver's view of the road.

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Soi thisw is where they would get most drivers as they seem to have their lights mounted ontop of the bull bar, a lot stick up so looking from the Drivers seat they can be seen so they are obstructing the drivers field of veiw. Owners will dispute this though. But if they can be seen from the drivers seat then they need to be lower.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

• The lamps must not obstruct the driver's view of the road.

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So this is where they would get most drivers as they seem to have their lights mounted on top of the bull bar, a lot stick up so looking from the Drivers seat they can be seen so they are obstructing the drivers field of view. Owners will dispute this though. But if they can be seen from the drivers seat then they need to be lower.
If they cops want to be pedantic then an aerial attached to a bullbar is obstructing the driver's view.

I personally think time can be better spent chasing the real criminals. Those car drivers with stuff hanging from their mirrors. Like Chineses lanterns, fluffy dice, stuffed toys, swamii photos, idols, tissue boxes on dash, nodding dogs on dash, action hero figurines all these are a distraction to the clear view of the driver's vision. Oh forgot GPSs mounted high in the centre of the windscreen. They are supposed to be mounted low on the drivers side corner:D

No, the 11mtr test applies.....

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Originally Posted by Tombie

No, the 11mtr test applies.....

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please explain
is it view 11 mt ahead?

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Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

please explain
is it view 11 mt ahead?

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There is a test, seat back full, as low as it can go...

Now this is from memory.

700mm up vertically from the base cushion/seat back meet.
230mm forward of that vertical line.

If with your eyes there you can't see a spot 11mtrs in front of the vehicle..... Fail
If you can.... Pass :)

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Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

Oh forgot GPSs mounted high in the centre of the windscreen. They are supposed to be mounted low on the drivers side corner:D

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That's the first time I have heard that. If I mounted mine on the driver's side corner I would have lost more than ten of them out the window, as I have had many suction cup failures. Mine is mounted low in the centre, and has fallen on the floor many times. Remember before GPS when you would drive with a street directory on your lap, much safer? Naa.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

So this is where they would get most drivers as they seem to have their lights mounted on top of the bull bar, a lot stick up so looking from the Drivers seat they can be seen so they are obstructing the drivers field of view. Owners will dispute this though. But if they can be seen from the drivers seat then they need to be lower.
If they cops want to be pedantic then an aerial attached to a bullbar is obstructing the driver's view.

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My bullbar can be seen from the driver's seat, so should I cut it and lower the top of it? Just because you can see it doesn't mean it is obstructing your vision.

Jeff

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Have to get rid of my bonnet, I can see it from the drivers seat.