Thread: Should we be concerned about China's air capability?

This explains the Melbourne gift to China, Bob


Submarine Matters: Chinese Liaoning carrier - some flight operations gear courtesy of Australia.

2020 before the fighters are operational.

the fa-18s will definitely be 'aging' by then.

I'n the meantime , does anyone know where the F-111s are buried?

We might need to dig them up.

Don't forget that all rhetoric we receive in the 'west' is American propaganda, ONE side of the story, who has started more wars - USA or China?

There's a reason place names exist i.e. the South China Sea, East China Sea. These aren't the South Japan Sea or West American Ocean etc.

The real enemy in our region was/potentially still is Japan, strangely the USA was instrumental in defeating their barbaric quest for Asian domination and their rape and killing of millions of innocent women and children (see The Rape of Nanking The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Rape of Nanking 1937-38 )

As for concern...why pick sides with a former brutal enemy? Regardless of the US 'self serving opinion' - LEST WE FORGET!

"...At another conference, in Beijing, Adm. Sun Jianguo, the deputy chief of the general staff of the People's Liberation Army, expanded on Mr. Xi's ideas, describing the American alliance system as an antiquated relic of the Cold War that should be replaced by an Asia-centric security architecture, participants said.

As word filtered through the region about Mr. Xi's new concept ? so far, only sketched in a bare-bones outline ? it was referred to as ? ?Asia for Asians,? which means China decides as the biggest guy on the block,? said a senior Asian diplomat from a country allied with the United States, who declined to be named for fear of alienating China."

Helene Cooper reported from Singapore, and Jane Perlez from Beijing.

A version of this article appears in print on May 31, 2014, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: U.S. Sway in Asia Is Imperiled as China Challenges Alliances.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

nuclear fallout can....

And already has thanks to the British tests at Maralinga, and the French in the Pacific Islands, and the Americans bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and Russia's Chernobyl, and American testing in Nevada etc.

So get hyped about what MAY or MAY NOT ever happen or get REAL about what has happened.

Pure sensationalism and blind ignorance of fact.

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

please dont tell me they were concerned about STEAM catapults,,,

Even Nimitz class carriers use steam catapults, it won't be until the next generation Gerald R Ford CVN's that the first non steam powered catapults will go into service. So right now steam is still the name of the game for a conventional (non STOVL) carrier

The one Carrier the Chinese have doesn't even have catapults, it uses a ramp to help get aircraft into the air. They didn't design or build it though it was a uncompleted Russian carrier they brought from the Ukraine under the pretence and promise that it would be a floating hotel and would never see service. Likewise the. Russians only have one carrier as well, which is the same design as the Chinese one. From memory the Russian carriers were only able to fly planes to and from in daylight hours, unlike the Yank ones that operate 24/7.

The Chinese are building two new carriers at present that are meant to be commissioned in the early 20's, it is expected they will have steam catapults that the Chinese obtained the design for from another country. ...

A couple of years ago I was in Auckland on a cruse ship . Birthed next to us was a Chinese navy ship . It was almost as long as the cruse ship . On the decks were large radar balls . I asked one of the ships officers on the ship I was on what type of navy ship was It . He said that It was a surveillance ship . All I can say is with all that equipment , they were taking there surveillance listening , very seriously !!.. Jim

Originally Posted by jimr1

A couple of years ago I was in Auckland on a cruse ship . Birthed next to us was a Chinese navy ship . It was almost as long as the cruse ship . On the decks were large radar balls . I asked one of the ships officers on the ship I was on what type of navy ship was It . He said that It was a surveillance ship . All I can say is with all that equipment , they were taking there surveillance listening , very seriously !!.. Jim

In 1973, Perth cruised the Indian Ocean, visited Mauritius, Kenya, Ethiopia, Iran, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, then on to the Far East & home. Whilst in Mauritius , we were joined by a large " fishing " vessel , festooned with all types of electronic bits & pieces. No prize for guessing what they were fishing for. They stuck in our vicinity for most of the trip, just over the horizon, mostly. Bob

Originally Posted by Greatsouthernland

And already has thanks to the British tests at Maralinga, and the French in the Pacific Islands, and the Americans bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and Russia's Chernobyl, and American testing in Nevada etc.

So get hyped about what MAY or MAY NOT ever happen or get REAL about what has happened.

Pure sensationalism and blind ignorance of fact.

And the Monte Bellow Islands of WA