Thread: Ropes illegal to tie a load

In the Telecom rope the ID tape was there for theft purposes. This was later dropped as the cost outweighed the benefit.
As for single use, I did ask a Telecom bloke once and he told me that they were supposed to use it more than once, they just didn't because of laziness.

My two best friends are EX Telecom. I will ask them when I next talk to them.

The reason there is so much of this around, I believe, is that it is copied and used everywhere. I reckon most of what is out there is not from Telstra but other sources.

I purchase a new whole roll a few years back from a swap meet.

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Futhermore if you do buy something from say a hardware store and they allow you to tie the load on with rope they also can be held to blame if an incedent arises.
From what I heard it is not a WA thing,its national.
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Andrew

I am aware of chain of responsibility laws. They were around when I got my HC license back in 2005.
However when it comes to the hardware store, I can really see when purchasing a couple of lengths of timber at Bunnings, an employee walking out to the carpark to watch it being restrained.

As for rated rope. How is a cop who pulls me over going to know if and what my rope is rated at? Even if it was written on the rope, how will he know what the load of stuff secured weighs?

Unenforceable I reckon. As I said earlier, I will still be using rope.

Originally Posted by d2dave

As for rated rope. How is a cop who pulls me over going to know if and what my rope is rated at? Even if it was written on the rope, how will he know what the load of stuff secured weighs?

Unenforceable I reckon. As I said earlier, I will still be using rope.

in SA the cop will defect on suspicion of not meeting standards.

Originally Posted by Ratel10mm

Dave, iirc the telltale dates back to (at least) the days of sailing ships in the Royal Navy. Each RN rope walk used a different colour telltale so that the rope could a) be traced to point of manufacture, and b) if (or when) stolen it was evidence that the rope belonged to the Crown, rather than the 'owner'.
And c) the telltale is in one twist, this marking that twist & making it much easier to follow the twists correctly when splicing.

That's correct, and afaik, it is still the same today. As we found out in Darwin, back in the 80's, when one of our young sailors , in an attempt to woo a young maiden on the sailing ship, " Eye of the Wind ", then in Darwin harbour, gave away one of our old head ropes. Eye of the Wind was raided by the Police [ something to do with a funny weed] , our rope was found, along with tell tale thread. Interesting times. Bob

Originally Posted by d2dave

In the Telecom rope the ID tape was there for theft purposes. This was later dropped as the cost outweighed the benefit.
As for single use, I did ask a Telecom bloke once and he told me that they were supposed to use it more than once, they just didn't because of laziness.

My two best friends are EX Telecom. I will ask them when I next talk to them.

The reason there is so much of this around, I believe, is that it is copied and used everywhere. I reckon most of what is out there is not from Telstra but other sources.

I purchase a new whole roll a few years back from a swap meet.

Yep, plenty around and good stuff to have on hand. I keep a roll in the garage for all sorts of things.

I have some of the thin blue & yellow rope too but I'd never use it to secure a proper load though. I find it's too thin & slippery to use with a decent truckies hitch & the loop doesn't hold well.

Originally Posted by mekon76

Bit of a nanny state law, I just wish people would learn to tie down properly whatever they're using, having successfully dodged a ladder falling from a ute at speed whilst on a motorbike with no space to go.

Define "tie down properly"
Ask 10 different people get 12 different opinions.

The load restraint guide gives a standard to acheive and the written law needs to be there to prosecute against those who donot comply.
I beg to differ, not being nanny state in this case

Yes the thing about rated rope is taking things too far.... or is it? there is actually nothing saying rated rope must be used, but it will be up to you to prove it is strong enough for the task - good luck! as the case for duct tape being used for ladders etc, again if you can prove it it strong enough to withstand accident level forces, fine. The police or traffic authority issues the fine, you try to get it reversed in court. Good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by Scouse

I have some of the thin blue & yellow rope too but I'd never use it to secure a proper load though. I find it's too thin & slippery to use with a decent truckies hitch & the loop doesn't hold well.

Crikey! How does one remember how to do that? Even with pictures I couldn't tie that. My wife laughs at me as I tie my shoelaces (which regularly come undone).