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    A couple of years ago Vic Roads put out a booklet on how various loads were to be restrained , probably 1/2 an inch thick which showed how machinery,wool bales, pipes and all manner of things were to be secured. Well they existed until someone there thought of what happens when the load that is secured as per their book shifts and injures someone? They then pulled the book and now you can't get it. A handy book though.
    On the subject of straps, make sure they are not twisted one of my clients got done for 160 bucks for having a twisted strap.
    Lindsay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldyella 76 View Post
    A couple of years ago Vic Roads put out a booklet on how various loads were to be restrained , probably 1/2 an inch thick which showed how machinery,wool bales, pipes and all manner of things were to be secured. Well they existed until someone there thought of what happens when the load that is secured as per their book shifts and injures someone? They then pulled the book and now you can't get it. A handy book though.
    On the subject of straps, make sure they are not twisted one of my clients got done for 160 bucks for having a twisted strap.
    Lindsay.
    Some of that info is now in the load restraint guide. Also individual guides are still available from vic roads.

    P.S. the fine can be per twist! if they are having a bad day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldyella 76 View Post
    A couple of years ago Vic Roads put out a booklet on how various loads were to be restrained , probably 1/2 an inch thick which showed how machinery,wool bales, pipes and all manner of things were to be secured. Well they existed until someone there thought of what happens when the load that is secured as per their book shifts and injures someone? They then pulled the book and now you can't get it. A handy book though.
    On the subject of straps, make sure they are not twisted one of my clients got done for 160 bucks for having a twisted strap.
    Lindsay.
    Was that twisted through the tensioning ratchet or a twist in the strap elsewhere? A twist through the ratchet is stupid and lazy, but a twist where the strap is tensioned but not restrained against the load will stop the strap from chattering in the wind.

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    Im a local government mechanic NSW. have to provide staff with equipment.


    workcover issue rule. an inspection check /audit all load and lifting stuff has to be carried out by out side contractor.


    biggest issue is uncovered loads. we had been buying shade cloth material for ant open utes. hyway patrol love to pull you over carry a spade or crow bar in the tray. most of our new toyota now have locking tool boxes. very little authorities question box trailers.

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    I understand the benefits of a quality ratchet strap.
    I bought a 6m long 1.5 tonne rated ratchet strap from SX trailers for 10 bucks.

    So for a hot tip, see a truck/trailer wholesaler for honest prices on quality gear.
    A comparable ratchet strap at supercheap was upwards of 60 bucks for a pair, and looked to be an inferior quality product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    a twist where the strap is tensioned but not restrained against the load will stop the strap from chattering in the wind.
    This is true but in their eyes, it does not matter where the twist is.

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    I've heard about police sitting outside bottle shops nabbing tradies who'd bought a carton of beer and put it in the back of their ute.

    I can't see how a carton of beer, or a bag of cement is going to 'jump' out of a ute,as long as the ute has sides of course, and they don't generally slide much anyway.

    Mr Newton is holding it down.

    And IF it did 'jump' out, how the hell is one of those cheap nets from supercrap going to stop it?

    It's all gotten rediculous, common sense isn't very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Site policy is all loads are ratcheted down ...

    No-one here can put the load tension using any knot that a quality ratchet can produce..


    As a side note, in SA fishing rods, bait buckets, etc in a boat (not in the closed cabin) are treated as an unsecured load.
    Interesting about stuff in boats, seems logical that gear inside should be "secured". What about the boat itself though. A 1.5T boat is secured to a trailer with a piddly small winch rope and chain?

    To my knowledge they are supplied from the manufacturers with no strap across the back but many owners place a strap over the rear of the hull as insurance for if the winch or bow chain fails etc. I have to place a twist in this strap otherwise it chatters insanely, am I honestly better off taking it off altogether?? :-(

    The world makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copba View Post

    I can't see how a carton of beer, or a bag of cement is going to 'jump' out of a ute,as long as the ute has sides of course, and they don't generally slide much anyway.

    Mr Newton is holding it down.

    And IF it did 'jump' out, how the hell is one of those cheap nets from supercrap going to stop it?
    Under normal driving conditions, yes they tend to stay put.

    Under heavy braking and or accident conditions they can get out. It is a very slim chance, and it takes bugger all resistance to stop it happening, 20% of its mass to be precise. So a 20kg bag of cement takes 4kg worth of force to stop it jumping over the sides. So put a fish scale on your cheap net and if it can hold at 4kg then it is sufficient to restrain that part of the force.

    But hey
    Its all common sense

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    glad i don't drive trucks anymore.I have trouble getting the straps to work.I remember when the straps started to be used we were told that we had to put a twist in the strap as they would fray from vibrating in the wind.

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