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    Ropes illegal to tie a load

    I here on the wireless today that as of Anzac day it is illegal to secure a load on any vehicle with rope.Rated ratchet straps or chains and dogs must be used.Items like bags of cement or animal feed also need to be restrained in the cargo bay!!!!
    Apparently its not just heavy vehicles,it also covers your ute or garden trailer.Futhermore if you do buy something from say a hardware store and they allow you to tie the load on with rope they also can be held to blame if an incedent arises.
    From what I heard it is not a WA thing,its national.
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    I don't accept the suggestion in the sites I looked at to confirm what you had heard, that straps are necessarily safer than slings.

    Are those of us who know how to tie knots and who have been safely securing motorbikes, kayaks, boats, timber, furniture, white goods and other items for half a century now going to be forced to buy webbing straps because some people don't know how to correctly use ropes?

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    The report on the ABC site mentions "certified rope", so it seem the right rope will still be OK.

    New road compliance and enforcement regulations will require drivers to use approved webbing, tie-downs or certified rope (rope which has been endorsed by Australian standards).
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1...-april/6329922

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    That's interesting. When I got my HR license I had to demonstrate that I could secure a load using chain and dogs and also with tensioned ropes.
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    The ban on ropes is probably to stop people trying to hang themselves due to the frustration of nanny laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    I here on the wireless today that as of Anzac day it is illegal to secure a load on any vehicle with rope.Rated ratchet straps or chains and dogs must be used.Items like bags of cement or animal feed also need to be restrained in the cargo bay!!!!
    Apparently its not just heavy vehicles,it also covers your ute or garden trailer.Futhermore if you do buy something from say a hardware store and they allow you to tie the load on with rope they also can be held to blame if an incedent arises.
    From what I heard it is not a WA thing,its national.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post

    EDIT.
    The report on the ABC site mentions "certified rope", so it seem the right rope will still be OK.

    New road compliance and enforcement regulations will require drivers to use approved webbing, tie-downs or certified rope (rope which has been endorsed by Australian standards).
    WA road transport changes to come into place in April - ABC Rural (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    For all practical purposes, rope is banned. Have you ever seen a rope with SWL tags?
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    That is ridiculous. Learning a simple half hitch and a truckie's hitch isn't hard and I reckon easier than using some of the strap contraptions around.

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    So has new legislation been passed? Does it actually specify a load restraint must be rated?

    If you tie anything on, it is your responsablilty. If something goes wrong and the rope gets tested and it's discovered the rope was insufficent for the load then you are liable.

    If I was given a ticket for insecuring a load with an unrated rope, I'd be asking the question how they have determined the rope I am using in insufficent. And I'll take that to court thanks.

    I use Telstra rope for near everthing since being a Telstra Subie for over 9 years. I hear all sorts of rubbish how I cant use it to secure a load. Well it is actually rated rope. The only problem would be if I tied somthing down that exceeded it's rating.

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    So basically anyone tying anything down will need to get a load calculation performed by an engineer and signed off and then tested and rated securing devices used attached to rated and tested load points....

    Insane.

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    Well I had a little, not a lot but a little bit of a read of some of the links provided by the ABC page.

    I followed through a little and one of the things I browsed was the "Load Restraint Guide". It says the restraint needs to secure the load in the following conditions (or something like that).

    0.8 g deceleration in a forward direction,
    0.5 g deceleration in a rearward direction,
    0.5 g acceleration in a lateral direction, and to
    0.2 g acceleration relative to the load in a vertical direction.

    So 0.8g is 80% of the weight of the item. If something weighs 100kg, the securing rope needs to secure it to 80kg. Telstra rope has a SWL of 200kg. So 2 lengths of Telstra rope holding an item to a head board has a SWL of 400kg (straight line). The requirement is for only 0.5g rearward. So 1 length of Telstra rope is enough to hold 800kg to a head board. Then you'd need to same laterally and it's going to be way over kill for the length you have over the top, holding it down.

    I can tell you now if I was securing something 800kg, I would be using more than 3 lengths of Telstra rope.

    So to put this into perspective. I could use 1 peice of Telstra rope from the front of a car trailer to a single tie point of a Suzuki Swift and back to the front of the trailer, do the same on the rear and that would be legal.

    I don't think too many people need to get there knickers in a not over this. I suspect most of us use overkill when it comes to securing stuff.

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