Thread: Is Super Cheap Really....?

Originally Posted by p38arover

I would expect a product labelled Sikaflex 227 to be the same wherever I bought it.

We stock all sika products and that is not one of them. That is a range that is offered exclusively to particular buying groups/ stores to compete with other products similarly priced.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

We stock all sika products and that is not one of them. That is a range that is offered exclusively to particular buying groups/ stores to compete with other products similarly priced.

I went to the Sika website and looked for automotive sealing products and found Sikaflex 227. I then looked at Bunnings (because I had $40 of gift cards to use) to see if they stocked it. Seam Sealing | Sika Australia Pty. Ltd.

Originally Posted by p38arover

I went to the Sika website and looked for automotive sealing products and found Sikaflex 227. I then looked at Bunnings (because I had $40 of gift cards to use) to see if they stocked it. Seam Sealing | Sika Australia Pty. Ltd.

My apologies, we don't stock any automotive products, so that is beyond my knowledge. I know that most of the mainstream trade products are in fact different and not all stocked by bunnings. This is done to protect the sika brand. I have been told this by my sika rep and various other suppliers that supply our store and also supply bunnings.

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I have no doubt Bunnings (and Masters) have products packed especially for them. It makes it very hard to find another shop that can beat their price and get thus get an extra 10% off.

1nando, do you mind if I ask for whom do you work. I use Bunnings because it's convenient to get to.

Last time I went to Bunnings I looked for Sika 227 and they didn't have it, but had Sika products labelled in a different way.


I wondered if they were the same product labelled differently. At Bunnings it is called Sikaflex Auto + and shows the use to be auto seams in a diagram on the hanger.


I had previously been able to get 227 from them a couple of years ago.

This is a pretty standard marketing ploy, if you have a popular product and two distinct and powerful retail chains, as it avoids direct price comparisons.

Regards Philip A

Sikaflex-FIX AU should be used as a general sealant for sound proofing and vibration deadening between body panels in your car.

If you need a highly flexible adhesive for your windows or windscreen, use Sikaflex-255 EXTRA+, which also cushions glass against vibrations and impact shock.

Sikaflex-AUTO+ is used as a higher strength general purpose adhesive sealant in your car, perfect for everything from adhering internal door panels to the frame of the door, to sealing around your engine block. You can also use it to attach a body kit to the frame of the car for a more unique look in your vehicle!

it seems to me that Auto + is a DIY edition of 227.

I have now studied the PDS of both 227 and Auto + and they appear to be almost identical.
The only difference is that Auto+ has a tensile strength of 1.6N/mm2 vs 227 with a tensile strength of 1.7N/mm2.

BTW Auto+ says

it is a universal sealant exclusively for crash body repair which is used to create a continuous , bonding seal on interior and exterior automotive body joints and is suitable for making permanent elastic seals of high tensile strength.

Both full PDS are on the Sika site .
It seems strange that auto+ has a notation in the same para that

This product is suitable for professional experienced users only.

when it is sold as a DIY product range in Bunnings!
Regards Philip A

I'd rather not mention who I work for, however I will tell you that I am the general manager of a sand and cement yard. We cater specifically to masonry trades (concrete, tiling, rendering, brick laying etc). We stock an extensive range because my customers want convenience.
I understand that burnings is convenient, I do. I personally refuse to buy or support them not because of where I work but rather to protect an industry. If the specialists stores disappear then bunnings and masters have a monopoly.
Next time you need materials for a job check your local sand cement yard, the savings might surprise you.
As for the quality of bunnings products, think of it as tailored to diy and not trade. Trade is specific in their wants and needs. DIY is the bare minimum required to do a job, made easy for the average Joe.
Back to your original post, super cheap is a specialist store. Even thought the 227 might have been $5 more when you bought it, chances are that anything else you might have needed would have been cheaper. Try to support the little guys, without them bunnings would charge you what ever they wanted......

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Next time you need materials for a job check your local sand cement yard, the savings might surprise you.

I've never bought those products from Bunnings. I always use my local yard. However, I didn't know they sold stuff other than sand, soil, cement, etc.

I agree about Bunnings and Masters driving the little blokes out.