advantages of a 110 over a rover or disco

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28th June 2015, 06:49 AM
DiscoMick

Our Tdci is quite comfortable at 110 km/h in 6th and the fuel consumption doesn't rise much.

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28th June 2015, 07:55 AM
mick88

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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

Till we bought some skis we used to tow a series 1 bonnet for a wake board behind the boat on the Normanby river :) A 110 bonnet with a rounded front would be much better:D

We used to do that on salt pans with an FJ bonnet.
Towed it behind our old scrub hacks, usually a Ford Pilot, an Anglia or a
an FJ.
Dangerous game, but a lot fun when your a kid and have no fear!
The bonnets would get pretty warm on the salt pans though.

Cheers, Mick.
28th June 2015, 08:13 AM
MrLandy

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

The principal advantage that the Defender has over the Disco is choice of body styles. I have difficulty seeing loading a tonne of fencing gear into a Disco with a forklift, and then being able to use it fencing with the tailgate open and the wire spinner in the back. Also not clear how you rig a ute crane for loading fence posts. Or to take another tack, how are you going to manage a stock crate and half a dozen goats or sheep? No problem at all with a 110 trayback.

Ultimately, the 110 is a work vehicle - the Disco is a passenger vehicle. Which is best depends on what you are using it for, but the Disco is surprisingly good at some work, and the Defender (in wagon or dual cab form) is surprisingly good asa passenger transport, although most would be better off with a Disco.

John

Well said John, the other reason a Defender is preferable to some as a passenger vehicle is its pragmatic hose out design. The last thing I want is carpet or anything else to keep clean in a vehicle designed for adventure. It's the no fuss, no frills, simplicity of the design that I love. No matter how good a disco, or any other Land Rover is, Nothing else has the simple pragmatic functionality and pragmatic design beauty of a Defender.
28th June 2015, 08:51 AM
tact

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Originally Posted by carlschmid2002

I would hate to think what your fuel consumption is like at that speed. Mine used to guzzle about 15 l/100km if you went over 110km/ph. My V8 Disco just purse along at these speeds using a lot less fuel.

Of course there is a fuel penalty for high speed runs. That would have to apply to your v8 disco too? What are your actual measured numbers?

For my 2013 2.2! 110DC the numbers look like this (Litres/100km. Measured/corrected for speedo error):

Worst: 13.78/14.50
(these numbers relate to 140kmh highway runs to Singapore)

Best: 10.27/10.81
(These numbers relate to speed limit highway runs to Singapore - 100-110kmh)

Av over 36000km: 11.91/12.53
Includes the above runs, and weekends and 4day off-road trips mostly in low range refilling from jerrycans in the jungle - all of that though outweighed by 90% of kilometers travelled being Kuala Lumpur city driving and crawling traffic jams)
28th June 2015, 04:37 PM
bob10

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Motoring journo's have made numerous presumptions about the Defender for at least the past 20 years! "Grandfathers axe of the 4x4 world" being just one! (The best axe design is the original by the way...so they actually sound a bit ridiculous). Cramped driving position is another...in my experience the COSINESS against the door is a plus! Bracing for off road, better view of the track in all directions, not to mention the flat sided advantages in tight forest country. Defender seats are actually the best in the business too (other than aftermarket rally driving seats, which are very firm) precisely because they are firm, upright and have good lumbar support. The basic nature of the interior geometry of the Defender is actually ergonomically excellent. Everything else is a lounge chair, which looks good at first glance, but is terrible for your back. Motoring journo's give cursory reports at best. It's actually pathetic. Long term comfort, durability, reliability is all based on presumption. Defender has been the victim of this presumption for decades.

Reading thru this, it's almost as though the journo is giving a back handed compliment to the Defender. Bob

2015 Land Rover Defender 110 Review | CarAdvice

And this will not sit well with some traditionalists.

Land Rover Discovery Concept Tech and Interior
28th June 2015, 05:20 PM
MrLandy

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Originally Posted by bob10

Reading thru this, it's almost as though the journo is giving a back handed compliment to the Defender. Bob

2015 Land Rover Defender 110 Review | CarAdvice

And this will not sit well with some traditionalists.

Land Rover Discovery Concept Tech and Interior

The Defender review is the same old presumptuous rubbish trotted out, it could be any number of reviews over the past ten years...why bother if you're predetermined to be so trite?!

The disco preview is fascinating, I like the flat floor and durable leather, but the head up display is annoying! And I'd hate to be a cyclist riding up behind a rear opening door!!

Soon 'driving' will be a thing of the past anyway.

It's as though escaping the natural world in a high tech cocoon is now Land Rovers aim, rather than reliably enabling us to access nature in order to escape the urban cocoon!!

Sorry, but to me its the wrong priority. It won't be long before the ECU chooses the route and destination for us and we just watch it all go by on the heads up display and through the invisible bonnet. We might as well stay home in our humidicrib 'real world simulators' and watch 'nature' in 3D.
28th June 2015, 05:54 PM
bob10

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

The Defender review is the same old presumptuous rubbish trotted out, it could be any number of reviews over the past ten years...why bother if you're predetermined to be so trite?!

The disco preview is fascinating, I like the flat floor and durable leather, but the head up display is annoying! And I'd hate to be a cyclist riding up behind a rear opening door!!

Soon 'driving' will be a thing of the past anyway.

It's as though escaping the natural world in a high tech cocoon is now Land Rovers aim, rather than reliably enabling us to access nature in order to escape the urban cocoon!!

Sorry, but to me its the wrong priority. It won't be long before the ECU chooses the route and destination for us and we just watch it all go by on the heads up display and through the invisible bonnet. We might as well stay home in our humidicrib 'real world simulators' and watch 'nature' in 3D.

My TD5 D2 will be my last vehicle. Can do all the defender can, in comfort. I don't need a space age vehicle. I would rather walk. Bob
28th June 2015, 06:27 PM
MrLandy

Cheers Bob. My Puma Defender is the most comfortable car I've ever driven. I'm particularly comfortable with its utilitarian nature. The only discomfort for me is the lack of Land Rover customer / service support outside metro areas, particularly after warranty / and LR Assist runs out. I'd hate to think how unsupported I'd feel if I was driving a new disco sport off the Tarmac!

...Independant LR specialists have never been more important! Here's cheers to you guys! May your numbers and services expand across this great continent.
28th June 2015, 06:40 PM
85 county

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Cheers Bob. My Puma Defender is the most comfortable car I've ever driven. I'm particularly comfortable with its utilitarian nature. The only discomfort for me is the lack of Land Rover customer / service support outside metro areas, particularly after warranty / and LR Assist runs out. I'd hate to think how unsupported I'd feel if I was driving a new disco sport off the Tarmac!

...Independant LR specialists have never been more important! Here's cheers to you guys! May your numbers and services expand across this great continent.

not a problem if your driving a 110 isuzu
28th June 2015, 06:47 PM
bob10

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Cheers Bob. My Puma Defender is the most comfortable car I've ever driven. I'm particularly comfortable with its utilitarian nature. The only discomfort for me is the lack of Land Rover customer / service support outside metro areas, particularly after warranty / and LR Assist runs out. I'd hate to think how unsupported I'd feel if I was driving a new disco sport off the Tarmac!

...Independant LR specialists have never been more important! Here's cheers to you guys! May your numbers and services expand across this great continent.

Agree about the service support in remote areas, precisely the reason Toyotas are so popular, they can be supported anywhere in Aus.. However, when I bought my TD5 D2,I went from frightened of the technology to comfortable with going any where with it, through education, some of that education from this forum, some from overseas forums. I found there is nothing to be frightened about technology, with support, you can cope, and this forum provides very good support.

I'm comfortable with my D2 , and I think that is the secret. All talk of which vehicle is better means nothing to those that are comfortable with what they have, only the insecure feel they have to make a point. Bob

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