Thread: advantages of a 110 over a rover or disco

Originally Posted by ozscott

You guys keep talking Disco....but you must mean bread vans because you know d1 and d2 v8's closely similar to Deefers and 110 except with a well placed handbrake, and quiet interiors with no internal water features. Cheers

I drove my Defender through a river recently. Not a drop of water came in, which is more than I can say about my previous D1.

Originally Posted by tact

That said the TDCi is certainly the Pinnacle of the evolution of the 110.

We're a bit past April 1st mate


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TDCi supremacy

Why do I maintain that the TDCi Defender is the pinnacle of the evolution of the 110?

The esteemed OP has on occasion hinted at his belief that the 110 (distinct from Defender) is supreme, that Defenders don't match up.

Let me ask 110 supremacists - for all the same reasons you consider the 110 better than the Defender (robust construction, all mechanical etc):
- are you still banging away on a typewriter? The world has moved on you know.
- or are you using computers and email. (Don't deny - you post in AULRO - it's a rhetorical question)

(And don't get me started on Series owners with their quill, Quink, and blotting paper)

- do you still only own and use the mechanical rotary dial home telephone?
- or are you carrying a modern cell phones or smartphones.

I propose that the Defender is the naturally selected result of time proven evolutionary processes working on the 110 lineage.

Dinosaurs gave way to mammals. That the horse is not built heavy and slow and strong like a triceratops is in no way a flaw in the evolutionary process.

Likewise - The defender, and ultimately the TDCi, easily shrug off criticisms leveled by ancestors. Ie lighter build, faster, more powerful, more fuel efficient, more comfortable. These too, are not evolutionary process mistakes.

The evolutionary changes leading to the TDCi are not mistakes because they improve, not detract from, the species ability to perform, survive, thrive in the environment that is their lot.

What of the more luxurious cousins? As has been pointed out the Discos and RR models do bring luxuries. Comforts. But at a cost. There are, in the case of these species, significant losses in some areas of performance and ability.

But that's no criticism. They are evolving in a different direction, for a different environment - one made of concrete and parking lots.

These cousins are the "trophy wives", not the hard working farmers wives who have a beauty all their own.

I rest my case. It's June, not April 1.

Wow,
In that case my Defender has well formed broad Peasant breeding hips, just like SWMBO

Love them both, wouldn't change a thing.

I hava slightly protuberant brow so I probably won't indulge in the evolutionary argument. I love all Land Rovers, although Defenders are quite obviously the most logical form, and I used to wave at all Land Rovers as well. I got a cheeky smile from a lady in an Evoque one day so I'm not allowed to do that anymore. Anyway it was giving me RSI.

Advantages of a county/110/defender

• load carrying ability

Advantages of a disco (a d2 in this case)

• tubeless tires on all models
• dust seals that work
• air con that works
• comfortable seats
• a properly positioned hand brake
• room for those of us with working right elbows
• headlights that work
• tail lights visible for more than 5 metres at night
• baby seat harness clip thingys as standard (because disco owners reproduce and want to protect their kids)
• airbags (because we value having a face)
• Good stereos
• cruise control standard
• option of sls and ace so your 4wd drives like a car
• brakes that work
• proper gear ratios so you can comfortably drive both off road and on freeways comfortably (yes we value comfort and yes you can put 'comfortably' in a sentence twice. I'm no bloody martyr nor am I a hipster or a bushy stuck in the past )
• No body joint related water leaks
• cheap 2nd hand compared with insane defender prices
• etc etc

And that's just the beginning....

Landys are like women come in all shapes n sizes

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder

OMG Gusthemutt

Your right
Ive made a terrible mistake i should have got a Pajero or Prado or Disco or even a Jeep but not a Defender.
I will hang my head in shame as i drive past the homogenised, pasturised, snot buckets dropping off the kiddies.

Mind you i would love a 4.4 Rangie, but not at that price, which makes the D4 look like bloody good value. But then you could get an Iveco 4*4 for the same sort of money.

As long as we are all happy with our toys, thats the main thing.