Autonomous Vehicles

**trog** · 18th May 2018, 04:54 PM

Discretion, much better than better than social and tabloid media as an answer.

DiscoMick · 18th May 2018, 04:58 PM

I was thinking today that it will be interesting to see what the court decides in the Uber fatality case, as the woman was on a roadway when struck, not on a pedestrian crossing. I'm not sure about American law. Is the motorist always wrong, even if the pedestrian shouldn't be there? Why didn't the vehicle brake? This case could set precedents.

Tombie · 18th May 2018, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Pics and incident report are being processed to identify the driver. I better not say more as its a police matter now, since he has refused to see reason. Dropkick was my polite description - my real opinion is unprintable.

Or just comes out like this:

****wit **** **** ****

Tombie · 18th May 2018, 06:00 PM

Apologies for those getting emails..

For some reason the swear filter didn’t catch the offensive words I typed expecting it to turn to *****

Sorry!!!!!

**Eevo** · 25th May 2018, 04:16 AM

instead of bumper stickers saying: "hows my driving?", it will say "hows my programming"

**JDNSW** · 25th May 2018, 05:45 AM

In news this morning the Uber car that hit the cyclist only identified it as a pedestrian one second before impact - and did not emergency brake because the emergency braking had been disabled because it was causing erratic operation!

Tombie · 25th May 2018, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

In news this morning the Uber car that hit the cyclist only identified it as a pedestrian one second before impact - and did not emergency brake because the emergency braking had been disabled because it was causing erratic operation!

Does that mean the outcome would have likely been the same? 1 second is not enough for a human reaction.

If Emergency braking was active, I’d question if it could drop the velocity in time with that warning.

Interesting technology though.

**cuppabillytea** · 25th May 2018, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Homestar

I don't think 'dropkick' quite goes far enough - I hope you are taking that footage/photo to the Police and making a complaint - I think the Constabulary need to have a word or two with him... If it's a video - send it to 'Today tonight' they love juicy little clips like that.

It does if you complete the rhyme. "Dropkick and punt."

**cuppabillytea** · 25th May 2018, 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=Tombie;2807452]Apologies for those getting emails..

For some reason the swear filter didn’t catch the offensive words I typed expecting it to turn to *****

Sorry!!!!![/QUOTE
Oh damn, I missed it.

**JDNSW** · 25th May 2018, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tombie

Does that mean the outcome would have likely been the same? 1 second is not enough for a human reaction.

If Emergency braking was active, I’d question if it could drop the velocity in time with that warning.

Interesting technology though.

One second is enough time for machine action, and it is quite likely that a second of emergency braking could have been enough to make it a non-fatal accident. Any comparison with a human driver though depends more on whether the human would have been better at identifying the hazard or not, rather than the reaction time. The forecast improvement in safety of autonomous vehicles has yet to be demonstrated convincingly, and this incident certainly does not help! (Although this might have more to do with Uber than the technology!)

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