I have my own private crime wave

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

That's not good, Federal is on my career path :D Maybe I'll skip it...

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Biiig difference between uniformed AFP and the other sections Muppet.

One of my best mates is a career AFP Federal Agent (30 years) and he enjoys his work, always been based in Sydney so he's never been in uniform.
He's dead straight and calls a spade a bloody shovel which might explain why he's only ever been promoted once. :D

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

From memory, Frank and his son were in the same line of business to the scum, who took exception to competition.

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Drug dealing? :eek:

:D

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Drug dealing? :eek:

:D

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:D l thought it was tow trucks but it seems I had a "senior moment". :(

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

:D l thought it was tow trucks but it seems I had a "senior moment". :(

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Ian, you are right, the truck is set up with ramps and a 15,000lb Runva Hydraulic winch which we use to haul recovered vehicles onto the 22' tray, transported a near new Defender and trailer from Batemans bay recently to Mosman in Sydney.
Also use the Disco up on the tray to recover bogged and broken down 4WD's.
Most of the time it is used for scrap cars, we lift them onto the tray with the 5 tonne Hiab crane, get 5 cars stacked on and take them to Nowra for scrap. That part is shut down at the moment as they are only paying $45/tonne and the NSW government takes $35/ tonne of that for their bull**** environment levy, so $10 a tonne doesn't cut it, esp when it costs $25/car in fuel costs, expect to see a lot more dumped cars in the bush, we now charge up to $100/car to take it to our local tip, which is free, so you were mostly right, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Tank

My son employed him as an offsider in our scrap business, he seemed to be a good worker, unlike the few other offsiders we'd had.
After a few weeks we realised he was stealing from us and using the truck without permission, he was paid off and sacked, we had no idea of his previous criminal activities or record.
We started getting phone and text message threats and on his Face book page, all traceable and provable and offered to the police (fed.) who were not interested.
This thug said he was a member of a major Motorcycle gang in ACT and he was working on their behalf and they wanted our business out of Canberra or they would kill my son and his family, torch my truck and kill me and my missus and burn our house, here on the South coast.
My son approached a member of this motorcycle gang, who he had once worked with and explained what was happening, this fella made some enquiries and found that our tormentor (will refer to him as AH) had nothing to do with their Club nor did they have any problems with our business.
Anyway AH ended up in hospital with some serious injuries and was put on notice.
We moved the business down to my place in Moruya, the threats continued, NSW police became involved and were waiting for him on the steps of the court in ACT when he was released on bail for the assault on the muslim man and his son.
He is now serving goal time in 13 wing in Long Bay Goal according to his Facebook page, which was used to convict him, ****ing idiot.
You say the police can only act when something actually happens (bit late if you're dead), maybe so but in my experiences the police (ACT) refused to even consider evidence that would have led to AH's arrest and their attitude was that AH wasn't a problem, but we were because we asked for help and protection, which they flatly refused, unlike the NSW cops who actually did some investigation and put AH where he belongs. So I suppose "credible" evidence doesn't impress the ACT cops and I should accept that as the norm, Regards frank.

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Anyone that threatens my family would be treated in the same manner as any pedophiles that go near them.

On a different topic, there is a LOT of deep mineshafts in the bush around our place. Great things mineshafts. People fall down them all the time.

Police are severely hampered by laws. Imagine spending all day, everyday of your life for years busting you guts to get scum off the street, to see the courts turn around, give them a slap on the back of the hand and throw them back out on the street. How long before you didn't give a **** and couldn't be bothered with it any longer too ?

seeya,
Shane L.

So it was reported tonight that ice is to blame for the 7 months worth of higher than normal crime Perth is experiencing at the moment,nothing about how they are going to fight it,just playing the blame game. Pat

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Police are severely hampered by laws. Imagine spending all day, everyday of your life for years busting you guts to get scum off the street, to see the courts turn around, give them a slap on the back of the hand and throw them back out on the street. How long before you didn't give a **** and couldn't be bothered with it any longer too ?

seeya,
Shane L.

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We live under the rule of law. Police are given comprehensive training to bring them up to speed to negotiate the mine field of criminal law, I believe that is the formal description. And, yes, frustration can lead to good men & women straying from their sworn path. However, I have never met a policeman/ women yet who joined the service for the right reasons, go down the road you suggest. At least , not while on duty. Even in the Pre Fitzgerald years , it was only a very few bad eggs who made it bad for all. You seem to suggest we go down the path of anarchy, brother. Not in my lifetime.

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Originally Posted by bob10

We live under the rule of law. Police are given comprehensive training to bring them up to speed to negotiate the mine field of criminal law, I believe that is the formal description. And, yes, frustration can lead to good men & women straying from their sworn path. However, I have never met a policeman/ women yet who joined the service for the right reasons, go down the road you suggest. At least , not while on duty. Even in the Pre Fitzgerald years , it was only a very few bad eggs who made it bad for all. You seem to suggest we go down the path of anarchy, brother. Not in my lifetime.

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I've never had anything against police, they do an impossible job. If somoene is threatening you ... You are wasting your time if you think you will be "rescued" by anyone other than yourself. I've rang the cops when a party of teenage kids got out of control .... They started smashing up the local hall, there was some terrified kids in that hall with the doors locked on glass falling in on them. The cops turned up and hid over the hill.... They weren't going into that environment ... not ever. Not even to rescue the bunch of petrified teenage kids in the hall. I stupidly went over ( well I had our 45kg rottie on a lead with me) and told them to rack off, the police are on the way. They ignored me..... No point threatening to let the dog off the lead, 'cos she's a gentle giant (so long as no-one tries to hurt her family).

Quite a few years back I caught a guy trying to break into my car in the coles/safeway carpark in town. ... would have been about 20 ... about 6' 4" ... much bigger than me in everyway. I yelled out really loud "hey you, I can see you trying to break into my car", to let everyone in the carpark know he was about trying to get into cars... Now this carpark is view of the local police station. 90seconds gentle jog from it infact... And is in plain view of two of the biggest supermarkets in town. Well this hero went off to the public toilets beside coles and came back with 12 others ... and fronted me.

They would have ranged from 15 -> 20years old. There was even a couple of girls in there. Now this hero wanted to fight me. The smaller guy beside him told me he would stab me in the neck if I tried anything..... SO I start walking backward toward Safeway. blocking the punches ... only the big guy was interested in fighting and showing off. If I'd seen a knife Id' have taken as many of them down as quick as I could ( I mean throat punches, smashing knees, anything to give me a chance to turn my back and run ...). I couldn't give a hoot what is legal if me or my family is threatened. It turns out I just blocked a few dozen punches and managed to walk backwards all the way into Safeway at which point they all fled from the cameras.

I learnt several things that day.
1) Situational awareness ... I looked away not even giving a seconds thought the guy was running away to get help (maybe even weapons). These days it wouldn't happen. I'd have eyes in the back of my head.... No way would 13 poeple walk up behind me while I'm unlocking my car.

2) People stand around and watch. You will NOT get help from the public. Don't be one of these people. If you see someone in the ****. Do something. If I'd witnessed this I'd driven my car straight at the groups and tried to run them all down (they would have fled from phsyco person in car ... You don't have to run them down, they only need to think your trying to ... YOur in a car, your not going to get hurt).

3) NEVER wait for the police, there isn't a snowmans chance in hell they will be there to help.

4) YOUR on your own. Don't hold back, forget laws, do whatever is possible to get yourself out of whatever situation you find yourself in safely.

5) It's impossible to run once someone is in your face. Turn your back and you'll just get hit in the back of the head. You need to see trouble about 30seconds before it happens to run.

Yes everyone is safeway wanted to know if I was ok, yes they'd all rang the police. I also rang the police. I waited another 20minutes.... then walked the 90seconds over to the police station and they had no idea anything was happening and didn't really care 'cos I wasn't beaten up.... even if I was I doubt they'd care.

I asked a guy at the beach not to drive like a lunatic through the caravan park last year (nicely, not aggresively) and he and his mate went nuts on me starting punches and screaming at me ...... Once again, I just blocked them and walked backwards through the caravan park until they realised there boats and cars were sitting on the ramps where anyone could take them ..... They then searched the caravan park for over an hour for me. I still don't get it.

bottom line, there is some real nutters out there. If your ever in the ****, forget the police, do ANYTHING you have to in order to get out of the situation. Run and hide if you need to like I did at the caravan park.

seeya,
Shane L.