Why we should buy Australian

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Originally Posted by frantic

Is it political when talking about other countries policies?

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No, policies - international and local can be discussed without issue - that's just what's in the news. Discussing the politics behind the policies, bagging out political parties, talking about the politics of the party is not permitted.

Tanks post is close to the wire - he is discussing policies - no dramas, but then when you get personal about those policies, and insinuate a wrong doing by the party for producing the policy is not. That's when it needs to go to CA for debate.

Clear as mud? :D

The more interesting thing is why this has turned even mildly political - if you read the OP's post, this thread is about CONSUMERS not wanting to pay more for quality. It has nothing to do with politics.

All true to some extent but we still need a broad based basic manufacturing and transport industry ticking away, that can be expanded rapidly if necessary.

Ignore world wide trends and nationalise key industries required for state security ?

Good idea that will never happen again. We've moved to far away from there to make it possible.

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Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Yes Tank , as much as it pains me to say that , I believe we are heading that way. In general people in this country want to work less hours for more $$ and want all the entitlements to go with it, to afford it businesses have to charge more and so the snowball starts.
In my business I have seen first hand many sides of the industry go offshore because no one wants to do that hard manual labour style work. It has become cheaper to import fishing gear into Australia than can be made here.
Most countries we compete against don't have a welfare system like we do , and they don't pay the high wages we pay.


Blame the government as much as you like , but we as a nation have contributed to the demise of local business because we want to pay as little as possible for everything we buy , not worrying about where it comes from, how many local jobs it will cost , as long as its cheap


Cheers Ean

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Ean, mate we must be looking at two totally different parts of society, people I know don't want to work less hours for more $$$, they just want a JOB to earn SOME $$$, but there are none for the average bloke.
My main gripe is the so called Australian companies that shift manufacturing overseas with the excuse they can produce their products overseas cheaper than here, so Australians benefit from lower prices. Total bull****, I have noticed these companies now selling their overseas product here for the same and mostly higher prices. Seems the only Aussies to benefit are the owners of these companies, they must think Aussies a stupid enough to fall for that ****. The only reason is to make them richer, **** the Aussie workers.
Wait till the 457 Visa **** hits the fan, seems a few trucking companies are bringing in Asian truck drivers, shoving them out on the road in B doubles, with no experience, when these drivers rack up thousands in fines the trucking company ships them home and brings in another batch, One large private transport company have drivers that have racked up over $1.5 million in fines, 1/2 these clowns don't even have log books, even if they did they still don't know the road rules.
How do these **** get a B Double license after only being in Australia a few days, rotten to the core.
My son and I have just bought a new car hoist for our workshop, Chinese and Asian imports for a basic clear floor 4T hoist ranges from $2.6K to around $4K, we bought a Molnar "high and Wide" 4.5T clear floor hoist which is manufactured in Australia by an Australian owned and run Company for $6.9K delivered and Installed.
We bought Australian because our lives depend on working under a Safe and Certified hoist, we know if there is a problem Molnar can send out an Australian repairman and not have to haggle with some Asian.
Best of all our money stays here it creates employment, not just at Molnar.
The moral of the story harking back to the OP is that money spent on Australian made goods creates national (am I allowed to say national) wealth.
The biggest problem with creating unemployment is that companies disappear overseas, sell their cheaply made and usually inferior quality product at the same or higher price back here in Australia, BUT because they put so many Australians out of work, those now unemployed Australians CANNOT AFFORD to buy these ****TY products.
So round and round it goes, no Australian benefits, but the Asians are having a BALL at our expense, Regards Frank.

Tank, You are missing a major point.
A major reason why companies close, such as the one mentioned by the O.P., is that they cannot compete, there is no market for their product at the price they have to charge, so they close up.
Sure, companies go O.S. to make dollars, but they also go because it is simply impossible to make a product here that is competitively priced.
Now price isn't everything, like in the example of your Molnar hoist, where you are prepared to pay for safety, quality & sevice back up. I get that, but those matters are not relevant in a great many smaller & different items that are imported.
Sometimes, it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy a locally made product,..I reckon you'd be buying heaps of O.S. stuff yourself, simply because ya just CAN'T by locally made stuff.
Without making a joke of the thread,...jocks, underwear etc,....I haven't seen any local stuff for I can't remember how long?
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

Tank, You are missing a major point.
A major reason why companies close, such as the one mentioned by the O.P., is that they cannot compete, there is no market for their product at the price they have to charge, so they close up.
Sure, companies go O.S. to make dollars, but they also go because it is simply impossible to make a product here that is competitively priced.
Now price isn't everything, like in the example of your Molnar hoist, where you are prepared to pay for safety, quality & sevice back up. I get that, but those matters are not relevant in a great many smaller & different items that are imported.
Sometimes, it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy a locally made product,..I reckon you'd be buying heaps of O.S. stuff yourself, simply because ya just CAN'T by locally made stuff.
Without making a joke of the thread,...jocks, underwear etc,....I haven't seen any local stuff for I can't remember how long?
Pickles.

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No, Mr Pickles. Frank has finally got it. I take it you read the article, Frank. And comprehended what was being said.
From the article:

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Mr Marsh said the company could not survive once customers bought on price rather than quality.
"I do believe that our product is better than a lot of the imported stuff but when customers are buying on price, quality doesn't come into it," he said.

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Some time ago, I was chatting with a fellow who was blaming all and sundry for the demise of the Holden workers' jobs. That same night, he proudly showed me a pair of his and hers Hyundai i30s in the garage. "That" I said "tells me you don't put your money where your mouth is."



Me, I choose quality over price any day. I'm sick of buying Chinese screws that either break or their heads are as soft as putty. I bought some Australian screws today to fix my chainsaw box. Hard to find, but I found them.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

No, policies - international and local can be discussed without issue - that's just what's in the news. Discussing the politics behind the policies, bagging out political parties, talking about the politics of the party is not permitted.

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Thank you for that explanation, I have placed it in my favorites, if needed in the future.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

No, Mr Pickles. Frank has finally got it. I take it you read the article, Frank. And comprehended what was being said.
From the article:



Some time ago, I was chatting with a fellow who was blaming all and sundry for the demise of the Holden workers' jobs. That same night, he proudly showed me a pair of his and hers Hyundai i30s in the garage. "That" I said "tells me you don't put your money where your mouth is."



Me, I choose quality over price any day. I'm sick of buying Chinese screws that either break or their heads are as soft as putty. I bought some Australian screws today to fix my chainsaw box. Hard to find, but I found them.

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No worries Mick, who made the screws & where did you buy them?
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

Tank, You are missing a major point.
A major reason why companies close, such as the one mentioned by the O.P., is that they cannot compete, there is no market for their product at the price they have to charge, so they close up.
Sure, companies go O.S. to make dollars, but they also go because it is simply impossible to make a product here that is competitively priced.
Now price isn't everything, like in the example of your Molnar hoist, where you are prepared to pay for safety, quality & sevice back up. I get that, but those matters are not relevant in a great many smaller & different items that are imported.
Sometimes, it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy a locally made product,..I reckon you'd be buying heaps of O.S. stuff yourself, simply because ya just CAN'T by locally made stuff.
Without making a joke of the thread,...jocks, underwear etc,....I haven't seen any local stuff for I can't remember how long?
Pickles.

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Actually speaking of jocks :D can you show us how much the in store price dropped of BONDS jocks and singlets after they moved all production offshore?
That would be zip from my experience.

Then speaking safety there is the recent warehouse roof that collapsed where they where told by the insurance co that if they used chinese steel frame and roofing they would not insure them in the future.