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    Classic argument agin Old Tyres...

    Shrt story:- On way to work this am, after overnight rain.
    Tyres are not as youthful as they used to be, - especially the rears.. (Know the feeling !)
    - 30 to 40 degree sweeping bend, taken at speed limit of 70, got around the bend, straightened up, but, ... Sarah decided to keep turning...

    Checking out Tyre Sales tonight... - for a full set of 'anything' that's just out of the mold.

    Moral of the story:- IF you must bash a new track in the bush, use a Range Rover... the ride through it all was, - superb.

    Ignore the Date/time stamp, still cannot adjust it... Look at the 'seconds' / last pair of digits. Everything here took 3 seconds...

    Damage:- One rim, one tyre ripped, ABS sensor cable ripped out. - all LH front. Scared the whatsis out of me... (But the ride was smoooth...)

    The aftermath was unbearable... #1 son drove up with spare wheels and floor-jack...and.... Gleefully Re-gurgitated all MY previous advice to him/other sons, about 'driving to the conditions' ..

    James the Jittery

    EDIT: - My normal Daily Driver, a cheap Mazda running even cheaper (budget/oriental) tyres would handle this road at much higher speeds. (perish the thought that I might ever exceed any limits... - Just sayin'...)
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    I've still got a set or two you can borrow in the short term!
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    Was it the age of the tyres or the amount of tread? Looking at those pictures you would seem to have been lucky not to hit something very solid.

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    Have you still got your prop shaft removed?
    Or is it back in?
    Just askin as I think if still out less control in the wet?
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    The back stepped out ?

    My old Rangie started doing this a few weeks back after a shower of rain .... I enjoyed this new behavior so much ( ), it took me a couple of weeks to notice one of the back tires was down to 10psi ....................

    Check the pressure in your back tires !!! It isn't very normal for an AWD car to step out for no reason, especially if your the sort to power through a corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradtot View Post
    Have you still got your prop shaft removed?
    Or is it back in?
    Just askin as I think if still out less control in the wet?
    Brad
    Yes, the thought did cross my mind.. Possibly more understeer (?).
    Despite acquiring a 'good' T/F case containing (allegedly) a use-able VC, it hadn't made it INto the Rangie.

    Having said that, this is my normal route to/from work, and I've done it in the Rangie at...differing velocities.. in all weathers.
    This is one of the least worrisome corners.
    Or was.
    All the more galling as I'd left home 10 minutes earlier than normal, allowing for slower traffic - which didn't materialise - so it was enjoyable to be not hurrying
    I don't mind RWD only, there's less 'twitchiness' in the steering, and it keeps one's focus on roundabouts..


    Tyres AND VC replacement this week... #1 son bought new axle-stands and jack for his Statesman. Time for me to borrow them from him and give them a proper work-out.

    Speaking of the VC, I notice that Ashcroft didn't have them listed on the site last week. - Could it be that manufacture and supply has finally dried up ?

    EDIT: - ... but I don't think the rim will...polish out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    The back stepped out ?

    My old Rangie started doing this a few weeks back after a shower of rain .... I enjoyed this new behavior so much ( ), it took me a couple of weeks to notice one of the back tires was down to 10psi ....................

    Check the pressure in your back tires !!! It isn't very normal for an AWD car to step out for no reason, especially if your the sort to power through a corner

    seeya
    Shane L.
    PS: Are you sure there wasn't an oil/coolant slick on the road just there ?
    Hmm... you've got a point or two there... Just went out and checked rear tyres... 27 Left Rear, and 28 R-Rear. By comparison, the R-Front original is 28, where I'd set it last week.

    (Yet another reason to renew these 1/2 worn geriatric tyres)

    Rears were on 35, (handbook states 28 / 35 F/R for all loading and surfaces)

    Pressure would have some effect, and I normally run them 28/30. The main influence must still be the Inside Wheel Nut.

    Not sure about road surface, as I went back in the Mazda some hours later (dry) and felt 'nothing' out of the ordinary. I DID see a set of tyre markings going into the bush but coming the other way... Not logical if slipperiness was toward the bed, but a faint possibility if the slick was very long/both sides.
    In the absence of more evidence & expertise, I don't buy this theory.

    Mind you, I suspect I was driving a tad more sedately... seemed to take longer both ways.

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    I notice the tyre is a Cooper?
    I have had a couple of sets of Coopers on different cars (1 set on the D3 so far) & I reckon they are a harder compound than a lot of tyres & therefore a bit less grippy in the wet. Good on dirt/mud though.
    Also, if they are old tyres the compound may have gone even harder?
    Just my opinion & what I've found.
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    Driver Error & Luck would seem to be the main cause!

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    If in doubt, power out!

    Oh that's right, your in a Range Rover.

    Glad to see that there was only superficial damage. Wet roads can be tricky, especially at this end of the season.

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    Power and (Classic) Range Rover are words not properly found in the same sentence...

    I'd go further than that... Used to have a set of $120 ea. 'Westlake' tyres, and they were in fact better than the Coopers in wet...and dry weather. Yes, Coopers will last a gazillion miles, the Westlakes are worn out... but after yesterday, I'd happily put on a set of Dunlop Aquajets !

    Yep, without refreshing my memory on dates for the rear tyres, I'd say the rubber was well and truly...matured. Looks and feeels like it.

    Anyway, the aim is a '90+%' highway tyre, any size... from TyreSales internet. I've got all week-end to stress & decide !

    205/80-16 or
    225/75-16 or even
    235/70-16 (the most common) replacement for the Good Old 205-R-16 OEM

    I don't see the need for huge wide rollers, which may have no more wet grip than skinnies. The 16 tonne bus I drive has 11" wide rubber, compared to my current 8 to 9" wheels.

    Brand choice is 'Goodride' or 'branded' such as Continental or the BFG's on special.

    IF you know what 'Aquajets' are... then you really ARE Old !!!

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