the home less

I know the government had done something for them but these people are keep goin or lookin for something like on the streets.

I was homeless for a brief period back in the late 70's . Luckily, that was the only problem I had, so I could get myself together reasonably quickly. Being without shelter is often not the only problem a lot of homeless people have and so I think the issue becomes a lot more complicated to deal with.

Cheers,
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I was homeless for a brief period back in the late 70's . Luckily, that was the only problem I had, so I could get myself together reasonably quickly. Being without shelter is often not the only problem a lot of homeless people have and so I think the issue becomes a lot more complicated to deal with.

Cheers,
D

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You dead right there mate (in my humble opinion anyways). I was living overseas in Canada about 15 yrs ago and rolled my old Chevy van and ran out of $ with no ticket home and lived a depressing existence of having to turn up at labour hire places at 5am trying to get work a lot of the time waiting a few hours and being told there was nothing today (when you did get work it was $40 for a 10hr day) lining up for a place to stay at a drop in centre at night as it was sub 0 at night, ect... It was a cold ****ty experience (mid winter in Vancouver)but ultimately only lasting a couple of months and knowing it was only a matter of time to dig out of a predicament quit an easy task in comparison to others I met. As Dark61 stated if that's your only issue it's only a matter of time but mate I met a hell of a lot of blokes with a range of complex issues where just a bit of effort and determination would fall well short of pulling them out of their situations, some highly educated too. As the saying goes :happy family's are all the same but dysfunctional ones are all dysfunctional in their own unique way = unfortunately no one stop shop solutions

As for the plebiscite, I know many people of different backgrounds that are on both sides. My 2 cents is that it id only due to a lack of real political balls to do what should have been done long ago. A plebiscite is just a means of outsourcing your procrastination as you have no real moral backbone to put your balls on the line. I'm all for being able to pursue fulfilment no matter what that may look like, as long as it isn't harming anyone else. It may offend the traditional political rights sensibilities but I'm sure they will live on... I think it was Jim Jeffries that said: sitting up at night worrying what two guys do in their private life is really quite gay 😄

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Many of the homeless people used to be housed in facilities which gave them a bed to sleep in, washed and cleaned them and had medical and mental health services for them.

Then we had the Richmond report which said it would be much better to have them in society. That worked out well didn't it.

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Agree, although there were problems in the old system. Theproblem is accountability of staff there were some wrongs done to vulnerablepeople in the past. We seem to have lost a sense of belonging in society, there was and has always been some people who look after themselves, I think in the past they were the minority but now it seems to be the majority.

sadly parasites prey more on the weakest..

for all the bad you hear shoved down your throat by the news outlets about the few that take advantage, the likes of the salvos and st vincent depaul do immense amounts to try and help those that struggle to find a way back to mainstream existence.

i did some time helping out at the old homeless shelter in the center of brisvegas many a year ago and i was really taken aback by the intellect of some of those that frequented the place. sure the vast majority had some pretty serious other issues but some just left me utterly confounded and saddened.

as for the plebiscite... all the gays i know that i have spoken about it with, bar one, are very much against it and some are very fearful of where it is going to take people....

did any of the countries that already have it, have a vote or did their parliament just do the needful think?

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sadly parasites prey more on the weakest..

for all the bad you hear shoved down your throat by the news outlets about the few that take advantage, the likes of the salvos and st vincent depaul do immense amounts to try and help those that struggle to find a way back to mainstream existence.

i did some time helping out at the old homeless shelter in the center of brisvegas many a year ago and i was really taken aback by the intellect of some of those that frequented the place. sure the vast majority had some pretty serious other issues but some just left me utterly confounded and saddened.

as for the plebiscite... all the gays i know that i have spoken about it with, bar one, are very much against it and some are very fearful of where it is going to take people....

did any of the countries that already have it, have a vote or did their parliament just do the needful think?

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England and Scottland have had this same discussion, and although there was a very vocal 'against' crowd, I didn't hear of any violence or anything like that and both votes went heavily to the 'for' side.

The difference is that over there, the Parliament adopted the voters wishes immediately, where I doubt that will happen here after the plebiscite.

The Salvos and St Vincents and others do a great job of helping people that society and governments seem to want to ignore.
I still think the plebiscite is just a delaying tactic and a wate of money.
Now the government wants to fund the yes and no cases, which means spending $7.5 million telling the country why some peoples' personal relationships are not considered by some to be as good as others. What a way to divide us. I wonder how many suicides that will cause.
I think we elect politicians to represent us and they should just have a vote, get it done one way or the other, and move on.

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The Salvos and St Vincents and others do a great job of helping people that society and governments seem to want to ignore.
I still think the plebiscite is just a delaying tactic and a wate of money.
Now the government wants to fund the yes and no cases, which means spending $7.5 million telling the country why some peoples' personal relationships are not considered by some to be as good as others. What a way to divide us. I wonder how many suicides that will cause.
I think we elect politicians to represent us and they should just have a vote, get it done one way or the other, and move on.

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Now that is something we completely agree on. Whatever next! :D

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The Salvos and St Vincents and others do a great job of helping people that society and governments seem to want to ignore.
I still think the plebiscite is just a delaying tactic and a wate of money.
Now the government wants to fund the yes and no cases, which means spending $7.5 million telling the country why some peoples' personal relationships are not considered by some to be as good as others. What a way to divide us. I wonder how many suicides that will cause.
I think we elect politicians to represent us and they should just have a vote, get it done one way or the other, and move on.

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One of the big reasons faith based organisations are funded to do the work with vulnerable groups is that they pay staff less than other welfare mobs. More and more government money is going this way for this reason.

Yes that's true. More volunteers.

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