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Yes indeed they are all massive spanners in the not so oiled works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
But are you trying to tell there is no Santa.... I did have my suspicions when I busted mum eating the cookies we left out for him many years ago. Next you'll be trying to tell me that i'ron Hubbard didn't really own a spaceship and that we are not possessed by evil aliens 😄
there is a few on here that must be devotees :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by squizzyhunter
Many things are valuable but not profitable. How do you value an education or good health or road safety, for example? A free market can't achieve them.
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Many of whom have mysteriously vanished. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by incisor
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Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Is that all true? Or partially a construct of society? [emoji12]
Why is there value in an Education?
Who is wiser? Someone with life experience or a tertiary education?
Good health could arguably be easier without capitalism..
After all - no Maccas etc and more home grown veggies and the like would most likely reduce significantly the current Obesity issues..
Not for profit medical research could also bring the medicines needed without the overwhelming costs.
Road safety; heck - we don't even have the old road safety adverts now that we did back when I was a kid. Or the trips to the road safety centre to learn to ride a bike safely or to be road aware..
This would be a great fireside topic...
You only have to look at the Countries with good education and compare them with Countries with little, poor or no education, to see the value of education.
True there is great value in life experience but even that can be enhanced by a good foundation.
I once read somewhere that there has never been a famine in a Country with a free press. You can't have a free press without readers to support it and digest the information on offer.
The Taliban have life experience. Their girls have no education. The value in education? Education has both intellectual and economic value. Education encourages imagination, creativity and interest in knowledge. It also gives students more opportunities for high-paying jobs and offers better economic security.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Bob10, I would qualify that to say appropriate education. For example the fixation with everyone being able to study for a degree if they want to seems to have done a great deal of damage, especially to those who would have been better off getting a trade than saddling themselves with debt for an academic qualification that is unlikely to add to their future prospects.
Getting a trade / going to trade school is equally valid an 'education', as going to university. The real quation is: why is western style education more valued in the world than cultural, religious, indigenous or any form of education for that matter. Some of my most powerful personal experiences have been in the presence of Buddhist monks, whose education cannot be denied and whom, as a result of their education, can enable someone with a western education (like me) see themselves and the world around them in entirely new ways.
Education is not only something that the public and private sectors facilitate. Yet it can be something that both of those dominating spheres of our society restrict! Our collective view of education in Australia is very restrictive, often to the point of disabling a global consciousness. ...it is not even compulsory for students to learn a second or third international language in the majority of our schools for goodness sake! Let alone an Indigenous language from the country we all call home.
We are greatly diminished no matter who we are if education is not highly valued in its full diversity across all disciplines and cultures.
I would hazard a guess that education has historically been as a way of improving the collective economic strength of the nation, plus a dash of the puritanical "work ethic" in the past. Hence the narrow focus and lack of embrace for spiritual (for want of a better term) development.
My kids ask me what kind of job they should do. My answer is whatever they do make sure they can take transfer the skills geographically rather than being a desk slave in a major city