Defect Notice for Roof Rack Lights

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I agree Mick. ADRs say lights must be an even number and not shine on the vehicle itself. If I recall correctly.

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a single light bar is an odd number though

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

You will need to call a tow truck as an illegally modified vehicle is considered to be unregistered."

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In the case of a lift or some other modification that would require major work to put the vehicle back to "Spec" I can imagine a tow truck would be needed But in the case of an errant Arial or lightbar/spotlight that could be removed in a couple of minutes the copper would be a complete arsehole to defect you if you were fully prepared to remove the offending bit of kit there and then.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

a single light bar is an odd number though

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Good point. Perhaps they pass if made up of an even number of individual lights?

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Originally Posted by trout1105

In the case of a lift or some other modification that would require major work to put the vehicle back to "Spec" I can imagine a tow truck would be needed But in the case of an errant Arial or lightbar/spotlight that could be removed in a couple of minutes the copper would be a complete arsehole to defect you if you were fully prepared to remove the offending bit of kit there and then.

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I was referring to major illegal modifications which is what they are really looking for when they have these roadside blitzes on 4WD's. Anything else they find is a bonus. After all is not the principal purpose of a police force to harass the citizens rather than seek out criminals. Power and control. Too many are complete professional practicing a-holes.

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Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

I was referring to major illegal modifications which is what they are really looking for when they have these roadside blitzes on 4WD's. Anything else they find is a bonus. After all is not the principal purpose of a police force to harass the citizens rather than seek out criminals. Power and control. Too many are complete professional practicing a-holes.

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I've found most people that find the Police 'Complete professional practicing a-holes' usually are themselves. Wouldn't dream of making that connection here mind you....

Fair go, you blokes!! Settle down.

Anyway, back to the subject, if you look at Qld rules it states that, because of the introduction of light bars, a light bar is legal.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

a single light bar is an odd number though

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Pretty sure one of the previous links in this thread said in 2015 the rules were changed to allow a single lightbar and not require pairs.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Pretty sure one of the previous links in this thread said in 2015 the rules were changed to allow a single lightbar and not require pairs.

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thanks mick.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Pretty sure one of the previous links in this thread said in 2015 the rules were changed to allow a single lightbar and not require pairs.

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I believe they were - or one could mask off the centre of the bar to make it look like two. [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by garrycol

However while it is hard to pin down the NSW rules - from the information listed in the thread it would seem that roof top lights are illegal in NSW - even if work lights - I guess that is open to interpretation.



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Roof top is fine @garrycol, it's the number that I was exceeding. The amendment to the rule in November suggests that they can be on the roof as long as they don't cause discomfort to the driver from reflection off the vehicle.

Also, they no longer have to be mounted in pairs - this si the 'catch-up' to the LED light bar popularity.

9.3. DRIVING LAMPS
9.3.1. Presence: Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
9.3.2. Number:
9.3.2.1. Up to a maximum of four.
9.3.2.2. To be used in conjunction with headlamps.
9.3.3. Arrangement:
9.3.3.1. No special requirement.
9.3.4. Position:
9.3.4.1. In width: no individual specifications;
9.3.4.1.1. Be fitted symmetrically in relation to the median longitudinal plane of the vehicle.
9.3.4.2. In height: no individual specifications.
9.3.4.3. In length: At the front of the vehicle. This requirement shall be deemed to be satisfied if the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the devices for indirect vision and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
9.3.5. Geometric visibility:
No individual specifications.
9.3.6. Orientation:
Towards the front.
9.3.7. Electrical connections:
The driving lamps must be able to be lighted only when the main-beam headlamps switch is in the “lamps on” position.
9.3.8. Tell tale: No requirement.
9.3.9. Other requirements.

Pasted from <Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 13/00 - Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles) 2005> IN FORCE - LATEST VERSION November 2017
Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 13/00 - Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles) 2005