Thread: Defect Notice for Roof Rack Lights

its about smooth surfaces and not ripping a person open. thats the idea behind the law

Originally Posted by Eevo

its about smooth surfaces and not ripping a person open. thats the idea behind the law

...and not impinging on vision zones. Several states specifically mandate that fitment cannot be on top of the bullbar, but most do not. However the ADR has clauses requiring vision zones that need to be maintained (seperate to 13/00). Most, if not all, lights fitted to the top of a bullbar would breach the over bonnet forward vision zones and therefore be illegal. Not all of the regs applying to lighting are in 13/00. There are others that are not specific to lighting that are covered elsewhere.

Originally Posted by DiscoClax

...and not impinging on vision zones. Several states specifically mandate that fitment cannot be on top of the bullbar, but most do not. However the ADR has clauses requiring vision zones that need to be maintained (seperate to 31/00). Most, if not all, lights fitted to the top of a bullbar would breach the over bonnet forward vision zones and therefore be illegal. Not all of the regs applying to lighting are in 31/00. There are others that are not specific to lighting that are covered elsewhere.

And before anyone says “I can see just fine”

There is a standard for measuring this from the drivers seat. So whilst some people may be able to see just fine - the standard has a specified “eye height”.

Originally Posted by Eevo

its about smooth surfaces and not ripping a person open. thats the idea behind the law

Roof rack lights will hardly rip a normal height person open

Originally Posted by Tombie

And before anyone says “I can see just fine”

There is a standard for measuring this from the drivers seat. So whilst some people may be able to see just fine - the standard has a specified “eye height”.

The basics of it are there is a specified form (object) of specified dimensions at a specified distance in front of the vehicle that needs to be visible to a driver of specified height (eye position). So, as Tombie stated, it's not open to interpretation or justification. Like with almost any mod, if you make a change and can't prove the zone is unaffected then it's deemed illegal. Hence the hard line some coppers take. Get an engineer to verify it and carry the paperwork if it might be iffy and you don't want the hassle. Or take your chances...

VSI8 covers most mods and also protrusions for Victorians (edge radii, openings, etc) and (I think?) NCOP14 covers the whole country in the states where NCOP (National Code Of Practice) has been recognised and supersedes state rules. Eventually all states and territories *should* be following the NCOP, but that's up to the individual fiefdoms to accept that or not...

I assume that's why it says that lightbars have to be below bonnet height, to avoid obstructing vision.

BTW in a pedestrian hit the person could certainly go over the windscreen and hit a roof-mounted lightbar.

Originally Posted by 123rover50

Roof rack lights will hardly rip a normal height person open

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

BTW in a pedestrian hit the person could certainly go over the windscreen and hit a roof-mounted lightbar.

micks on the ball.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

BTW in a pedestrian hit the person could certainly go over the windscreen and hit a roof-mounted lightbar.

I'm tipping, should a pedestrian be hit by one of my Landrovers, that pedestrian would be going under, not over.