Thread: Law & Order is STUFFED.

And another terrible incident on the Gold Coast,...the man had been out on bail for 22 days,....nothing more need be said.
Pickles.

Yep, numerous terrible incidents just show that putting punishment before rehabilitation is failing miserably all around the country, and it's going to get worse unless there is a radical change in government and community attitudes. We will end up like in Port Moresby living behind barbed wire with guards and dogs.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I agree with the previous post - the current system is failing. Why?
Locking up youths in centres with nothing to do but get bored is a recipe for trouble. Family breakdown and high youth unemployment as technology destroys entry level jobs is leaving an unskilled generation without hope, just as has happened in Aboriginal society.

Destroying people for vengeance has little chance of reforming anyone. Anyone who has been to Port Arthur and read about the failed isolation prison based on the ideas of Elizabeth Fry would know that that approach was a total disaster which led to riots and suicides, yet here we are 150 years later repeating the same mistakes.

Instead of punishing them through isolation, they should be in programs which encourage them to reform their habits and learn useful skills. People need to see a path to a better future if they are to want to change their lives. However governments have slashed funding for TAFE and social reform programs. Now we are seeing the results and they are very serious.

You're right. We are repeating the same problem..

Stop isolating Rabid Human knuckle draggers... Start putting them down..

You don't get to "learn useful skills and have a better future" when you've just destroyed someone else's..

Many of those TAFE courses etc were shut down as the individuals in them often just turned into a Feral with a Cert IV/III or Trade.. adding a skill set doesn't often remove an attitude or behaviour. Sure some "come good"..

But those who have destroyed lives do not deserve a chance at a better life... they've ruined at least one other and those who cared for that victim..

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yep, numerous terrible incidents just show that putting punishment before rehabilitation is failing miserably all around the country, and it's going to get worse unless there is a radical change in government and community attitudes. We will end up like in Port Moresby living behind barbed wire with guards and dogs.

Just using the wrong punishment.... 5.56, Lethal Injection, Gallows, The hot seat... all effective at removing those who wish to cause malicious harm to others.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Just using the wrong punishment.... 5.56, Lethal Injection, Gallows, The hot seat... all effective at removing those who wish to cause malicious harm to others.

for crimes where there are many eye witnesses not directly involved, like the latest burke street incident, happy to see capital punishment employed

but the evidence would have to be beyond any doubt what so ever with circumstantial evidence not being admissible.

otherwise no way, there are just too many cases of outside influences being brought to bear and innocent lives being taken.

Just seeing the nonsense in Flinders Street today, involving those FERALS & some known "professional" ferals abusing Police made me sick. These ferals deserve NO respect at all,....hitting & abusing Police,....and what would happen if the Police gave them some of the same,....yeah right.
Pickles.

Agree Inc... independent verified witnesses = straight to the front of the line and no appeals.

This thread has gone political and should be in Current Affairs, I think. Otherwise, it's really not possible to say any more on it.