Thread: Toyota Hilux Vs Moose test...

It was flat too. I remember looking over the edge

Originally Posted by jonesfam

Things must have changed?
Way, way back, when the world was black & white & I was learning to drive I was taught not to swerve at all for animals on the road. I was told by several people (including an ex race/rally drive) that swerving for animals, especially on poor country roads, was the best way to end up very hurt, on your roof & with a totally stuffed car.
I was told to keep it straight, brake as hard as possible (preferably not locking up) & hope for the best. I was told I may still end up doing a lot of damage but I had a better chance of not being seriously hurt &, with a bit of luck, I might still be able to drive.
I still do this to this day even tho my D3 has DSC, ABS & the rest of the alphabet.

Jonesfam
PS One of my SN kids says that when we were young the world must have been black & white.

I think that "moose test" is just a name given to the test.

The aim of the test is to prove whether a vehicle can safely handle sudden lane changes in the event of having to avoid something that you WOULD swerve to miss, such as a pedestrian etc.

I will never swerve any vehicle suddenly to avoid any animal. I have learnt that the best thing is to brake hard while keeping the vehicle pointed straight ahead, and then (especially with kangaroos), get off the brakes and maybe even back on the loud pedal at the very last minute - best to have the nose of the vehicle as high as possible.

Speak with the coppers / ambo's in any rural / remote area of Australia. They will tell you in many areas (such as around Kalgoorlie) that the single largest cause of single vehicle accidents / fatalities is related to people swerving to avoid kangaroos on the road.

Has always been black & white for me too.

Of course the Moose test is devised and conducted by a car magazine not a national testing laboratory to confirm meeting any design standard. The test has seen a few instances where the car was tipped by the enthusiasm of the test driver rather that failure of the car. Had been going on for years with plenty of failures and only became known outside the local media when the Mercedes car failed it with the film for TV consumption.

I like how the most stable is the huge lardy American ute...perhaps the most forgiving suspension with most weight is a good thing... Cheers

Steve's D2 lifted did just fine...

[ame]https://youtu.be/FuATJT3wH_w[/ame]

Cheers

It would seem low profiles do not ALWAYS make for better handling...

https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-advi...-at-moose-test

Cheers

I have a Series 3 project sat down the backyard.Ford 302V8 and C4 auto,4 inch lift.
I was getting it engineered,the man was more than happy with my work.
He went thru the lane change test,told me mine should pass,as the weight was low,alloy body above.The cost was going to be $10K+ so I gave up.He also mentioned a stock standard Toyota Landcuiser station wagon cannot pass the test I was expected to pass.
Andrew

Originally Posted by jonesfam

Things must have changed?
Way, way back, when the world was black & white & I was learning to drive I was taught not to swerve at all for animals on the road. I was told by several people (including an ex race/rally drive) that swerving for animals, especially on poor country roads, was the best way to end up very hurt, on your roof & with a totally stuffed car.
I was told to keep it straight, brake as hard as possible (preferably not locking up) & hope for the best. I was told I may still end up doing a lot of damage but I had a better chance of not being seriously hurt &, with a bit of luck, I might still be able to drive.
I still do this to this day even tho my D3 has DSC, ABS & the rest of the alphabet.

Jonesfam
PS One of my SN kids says that when we were young the world must have been black & white.

I doubt the people that told you that were talking about moose.

The problem with moose is they have a high centre of gravity and spindly legs. Many people have been killed when the body of a moose has speared into the cabin.

Moose are among the largest mammals in North America. Standing up to 7.5 feet at the shoulder and weighing up to 1,600 lbs, they are the largest members of the deer family (1--3). Maine's moose population (approximately 29,000) is the biggest in the United States outside of Alaska (4). During a collision with a motor vehicle, a moose usually is struck in the legs, causing its body to roll onto the hood of the vehicle, often collapsing the windshield and roof. As a result, motor-vehicle collisions involving moose are capable of causing substantial injury to vehicle occupants (3).

I bet this driver wishes they had swerved. Note the moose went right through the cab. In this case the driver survived (just), but many don't - including 4x4s.


This one made it to the 3rd row seats