P Plates......are they really needed

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Doesn't need to be exactly the same [emoji41]

I think ours is worse when you break it down to population density. They may be double but they're a lot more "crowded" and they generally move at a higher average speed than we do... many of their crashes on Interstates etc take multiple casualties..

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Perhaps I could point out that in this state at least, the death rate per head is far higher in areas of low population density than in metropolitan areas, which sort of contradicts what I think is your point.

From my experience driving in the US, some parts of the US are more crowded, and some are not, and yes, in some parts average speeds are higher. Having spent many hours at speeds of 10-20mph on a ten lane freeway, it is not clear that on average speeds are higher than here. There are probably fewer major highways that are only two lane as they are here, which facilitates higher speeds there in rural areas, helped by lower emphasis on strict speed limits than here (at least in some states!).

Like Australia, rules and licencing standards vary state to state - and there are fifty of them!

John

What's the Point of worrying about driver training.
From what you read/hear on the news half the drivers who have fatal accidents & are booked for DUI don't have a license or registered car anyway!

I'm not picking on the Cops but policing In-Licensed drivers seems a no brainer to me.
How to do that?
Jonesfam

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Originally Posted by jonesfam

What's the Point of worrying about driver training.
From what you read/hear on the news half the drivers who have fatal accidents & are booked for DUI don't have a license or registered car anyway!

I'm not picking on the Cops but policing In-Licensed drivers seems a no brainer to me.
How to do that?
Jonesfam

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That's why they ask for your licence when you are stopped for a breath test. They usually also run the licence plate.

If they are following you, they already know before they stop you if the car is registered.

A few years ago I left the rego check until quite late and had to get a new tyre. I rang the tyre service on Friday afternoon to check that they had the tyre I wanted.

On Monday, I drove to the tyre service to get the tyre fitted, as is quite legal even though the rego had expired over the weekend.

I had forgotten about the rego expiring, so was quite surprised when a patrol car pulled me up. When he asked where I was going, fortunately I said that I was on my way to get a new tyre. He just set me on my way.

I didn't realise until later that, it was quite clear from the questions he was asking that he knew (presumably from tech equipment in the patrol car) that my car was out of rego.

I have been led to believe that the same technology allows them to simply drive past parked cars and identify any unregistered ones.

Perhaps there might be fewer unlicensed / unregistered drivers if there was less reliance on speed cameras and more focus on patrolling.

EDIT - thats not a dig at the police btw, who generally seem to do a fine job with the hand they have been dealt by others.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

That's why they ask for your licence when you are stopped for a breath test. They usually also run the licence plate.

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I've never been asked to produce my licence at an RBT.
Licence plate! Is that found under the catch that opens the trunk :confused: :( :( :(
Steve

Nothing of the like in Florida where I grew up and learned to drive. You got your learners permit at 15 (written test only) and then full license at 16 (written test AND driving test unless you took a drivers ed. course either in school or privately, then NO road test). Surprisingly, the road toll is very low for under 25's....