Vic High Country?

Hello Grey Landy,
One thing to take on this trip is a chainsaw and a long chain. As one of the photos earlier in the thread showed you can encounter some dead trees on the road.
This is caused by the GREENIES :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: . They would not let anyone do regular burns up there, saying it was not natural, so when a fire came through it killed nearly all of the gumtrees :evil: . I do not know if you have had any experience with fires like that, but to kill a gum tree like that you need one hell of a blanky hot fire.

Not to far from where I live now there was a fire a few years back. The fire truck went down to put out the spot fires two days after the fire went through, and the heat from the ground made the tyres start to catch fire 8O .

Have a great time

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Greylandy,

I'm planning to do the Staircase this weekend (Mt Spec track) to walk up Mt Spec. So I could try to take some pics for you.

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Thanks Chris .. pics will be great.

Bryce, I sent you a PM regarding the Topo maps.

Thanks all for your suggestions https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

Sent PM back hope I can help, shame your so far away could get together for plan of attack.

Cheers
Bryce

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Originally posted by gruntfuttock
Hello Grey Landy,
One thing to take on this trip is a chainsaw and a long chain. As one of the photos earlier in the thread showed you can encounter some dead trees on the road.
This is caused by the GREENIES :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: . They would not let anyone do regular burns up there, saying it was not natural, so when a fire came through it killed nearly all of the gumtrees :evil: . I do not know if you have had any experience with fires like that, but to kill a gum tree like that you need one hell of a blanky hot fire.

Not to far from where I live now there was a fire a few years back. The fire truck went down to put out the spot fires two days after the fire went through, and the heat from the ground made the tyres start to catch fire 8O .

Have a great time

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Fires in the high country are not particularly "natural" unless they are started by natural means, lightening etc. Everynow and then though a real dry season comes along and fires that start become uncontollable.
1939 was the last real bad high country fire season the result was the same killed the alpine ash - which is good as this is the way it sets seed.

Sorry but can't believe the bit about the truck tyres though.

By the way I'm not a "Greenie"


Bushie

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Hello Grey Landy,
One thing to take on this trip is a chainsaw and a long chain. As one of the photos earlier in the thread showed you can encounter some dead trees on the road.
This is caused by the GREENIES :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: . They would not let anyone do regular burns up there, saying it was not natural, so when a fire came through it killed nearly all of the gumtrees :evil: . I do not know if you have had any experience with fires like that, but to kill a gum tree like that you need one hell of a blanky hot fire.

Not to far from where I live now there was a fire a few years back. The fire truck went down to put out the spot fires two days after the fire went through, and the heat from the ground made the tyres start to catch fire 8O .

Have a great time

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Fires in the high country are not particularly "natural" unless they are started by natural means, lightening etc. Everynow and then though a real dry season comes along and fires that start become uncontollable.
1939 was the last real bad high country fire season the result was the same killed the alpine ash - which is good as this is the way it sets seed.

Sorry but can't believe the bit about the truck tyres though.

By the way I'm not a "Greenie"


Bushie[/b][/quote]

Many "gum trees" seed by fire, if not all. This the native Australians new (one of the reasons the burnt the bush). They also lived in the bush. They did not have places to hide, they kept the bush clean by lighting small fires if they did noot keep the bush clean they would die it is as simple as that. This practice was continued up till the 1960's or 70's. I personally knew men who used to ride the hills on horse back with a car tube tied behind the horse and the fire would burn slowly down the hill and not harm anything because it was a low intencity fire. The native Australians have lived here some 40 to 60,000 years before us. They might have changed the land a bit but it is changed now and we cannot un change it. They have had 40,000 years of experience, many whites only have a peice of paper from a university.

Have you ever been in a bushfire? It is a scary thing. I cannot force you to belive what I wrote, that is you right. If you do not belive what I wrote about the tyres, fine that is your own right. You might think that what I am saying is the biggest load of crap under the sun. I am only speaking from experience and people who I know / knew who have lived up there all their lives as there parents did. One of them died a few years ago aged 98. Every one has the right to belive what they want. It takes an extremely hot fire to kill a tree like that. To give you some idea of how hot a fire can get. I once helped a man make a crowbar, we did not have a forge, so we used an old tree stump which was hollowed out and a hole cut at the bottom of it. The rod we were using for the crowbar came out bright cherry red after it was put in there for a while. You may belive this you may not it does not worry my either way, it's your right. As there are people who still belive the earth is flat 8O 8O 8O
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Hi Greylandy,
Yes the book "4WD Tracks of the High Country" is spot on, we used their GPS coordinates throughout our trip earlier this year when we went from Mansfield through to Jindabyne. All GPS points were incredibly accurate, it is a very good reference.
I have all the coordinates for the trip we did, although some of the tracks would not be suitable for the RAV, any way I can send them to you if you are interested they work well with Ozi Explorer.

Hi Richard,

Will be great if you can send me your coordinates. The verdict is still out if I'm going to allow the RAV 4 on the trip. At the moment I'm mapping out all the good tracks for the landies and bypass routes for all the other :wink: Any case my email: henry@greylandy.com

Cheers
Henry.

i will be up at Sheepyard Flats from 28th Dec - 02 Jan

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Yup, I'm planning to go past Sheepyard Flats around that time so will definitely drop in for a cold one, it's about time I get to see the famous Kabota ... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

only problem being it will be in its street gear https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

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my shout :wink:

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