New discovery pricing revealed

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I might be missing something , but does not having a transfer case mean it doesn't have 4wd ?

You can opt out of a transfer case in an Amorok , it still has all 4wd features but has extra low gears in 1 & 2 in an 8 speed box.

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Nope.. it means no low range.... Freelander and disco sport have no transfer case and are 4wd..... usually in these vehicles 1st is very low to help compensate.

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Originally Posted by Grentarc

The D5 without TR2 still have a "base model" TR - it still has all the modes except ATPC (All Terain Progress Control - low speed off road criuise control) and "Auto" - that's the difference. It is not as if it is TR2 or nothing.

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I think the limitations of which models it is available on is odd....but I agree, the additional features of TR2 are not a make or break in my mind... TR has been constantly evolving anyway.

I won't be running to the queue to be the first with the new model.... in fact I'm more interested in what they come up with as a Defender replacement - but considering previous D4 pricing and nothing I see here seems too surprising.

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Originally Posted by frantic

All the disco2's (and majority 90/110 defenders ) got TC, afaik majority if not all d3/4 got TR only base models didn't get airbag suspension.

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Frantic, you cannot fairly compare the TC in the D2's and defenders to that in the D3/D4... they are a totally different beast.

It would be like comparing a 200Tdi, a Puma and an SDV6 and arguing " but they are all diesels"..;)

Even the TC in the 2014/ 2015 D4's is significantly better than in the 2010 and earlier models.

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Originally Posted by Bytemrk

Even the TC in the 2014/ 2015 D4's is significantly better than in the 2010 and earlier models.

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Little OT but, I just updated the TR software in my MY10 D4 to the latest version (same software version number as MY14+) and in the very limited times I have utilised it so far, it is behaving how people describe the latest TR - definitely different to how it was before.

Tell me more please? When I asked Gordon he told me TR couldn't be updated.

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

Tell me more please? When I asked Gordon he told me TR couldn't be updated.

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I wonder why he said that? It's just software - all the hardware is the same part numbers... I just used the "fast lane service" through GAP to purchase the relevant Land Rover software update (25 GBP) and used my IID Tool to do it. These software updates are available from any dealer too.

Mark I think you missed my point, I'm not comparing the late 90's TC with tr/2 , but the fitting of the latest tech to virtually all the LR serious off-road vehicles in the 90's/00's with LR/TC , yet now you have to get the top mid or top top model to get the lot.
The other question that stems from this is what boxes will you need to tick in the next gen defender to get the whole kit?